Since more children and people have been killed by Israel than in the terrorist attack, should they stop?

[Eternally Grateful]

Hamas MONSTERS designed all this. This is war! Civilians are always casualties. That's what the MONSTERS wanted!

They want many .. so they can turn the world against Israel.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I thought it looked funny seeing someone repeat the word apartment as many times as you did to make apoint, so I pretended to be amazed and joked about it, a wise crack.

Well when Jesus returns and decimates billions, what will yiu say to Him?

The birds will feed on the flesh for a year.

thats a lot of dead flesh.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

God scattered Israel, temporarily. It's in the Bible. Read it.

Let me guess, you're an Israel wannabee? You're in Athens?

Lev 26….

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Romans 11 does say they will be saved at the end of the world as do the OT prophets. But see, they deny all of the scriptures are speaking of any real Jewish Israelites existing today. They claim all these people are fake, Europeans who have assumed the identity. But that begs the question why all the end times prophesies of those people coming to Christ at the end of the age, if they don't even exist today. I prefer to believe the scriptures over their POV.

Paul also said they hated concerning the gospel, but beloved concerning the promises.

He said he will use Gentiles to punish them, but he also said he will severely punish those gentiles who treat them severely While those Gentiles have them in their care

 

[Jack]

They want many .. so they can turn the world against Israel.

Bingo!

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

Right, and I answered in such as way as not to minimize the civilian murders

That's a good point. Are they civil? Define that. Living amongst Hamas, more than half voting for and approving of their actions. Most of the young men are unemployed, therefore producing nothing, offering nothing to the world, following a false religion that promotes Jihad and hate towards anyone who is not a Muslim, whose goal is to convert the world or have them suffer the consequences. Sure, real civilized. They are antiChrists.
Keep in mind what Jesus will do when He returns and also that God is sovereign, He is allowing all this to take place and continue. That is what you are unaware of, His intentions and plan including all that is happening! It is the Beginning of Sorrows and will escalate towards Armageddon. It was written about. And this is the beginning.

And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.” Zech 12:3

And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem. And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. Zech. 12:9, 10

For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city. Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south. Zech.” 14:2-4

 

[Scott Downey]

That's a good point. Are they civil? Define that. Living amongst Hamas, more than half voting for and approving of their actions. Most of the young men are unemployed, therefore producing nothing, offering nothing to the world, following a false religion that promotes Jihad and hate towards anyone who is not a Muslim, whose goal is to convert the world or have them suffer the consequences. Sure, real civilized. They are antiChrists.
Keep in mind what Jesus will do when He returns and also that God is sovereign, He is allowing all this to take place and continue. That is what you are unaware of, His intentions and plan including all that is happening! It is the Beginning of Sorrows and will escalate towards Armageddon. It was written about. And this is the beginning.

And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.” Zech 12:3

And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem. And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. Zech. 12:9, 10

For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city. Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south. Zech.” 14:2-4

very obviously an end, latter days prophecy which has had no fulfillment yet. Can not apply to Christians today, none of those last chapters in Zechariah.

 

[Wrangler]

I disagree. That sounds fanatical and dangerous

What is it you disagree with?

1. Hamas uses human shields
2. The only safe path is to destroy Hamas.

BTW, war tends to be dangerous. Israel did not want this war. Hamas Islamic Jihadi’s are fanatical.

 

[Wrangler]

No one justified terrorism. The point is you don't become a terrorist because you dislike terrorists.

Israel are not terrorists. But if you are not justifying terrorism, why do you object to Israel’s actions but not Hamas?

 

[Behold]

Hamas official says group aims to repeat Oct. 7 onslaught many times to destroy Israel

Ghazi Hamad, of terror group’s politburo, hails assault in which civilians were systematically murdered, saying ‘there will be a second, a third, a fourth’..​

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  Senior Hamas official Ghazi Hamad speaks in an interview with Lebanese channel LBC on October 24, 2023.

A senior member of Hamas has hailed the systematic slaughter of civilians in Israel on October 7, vowing in an interview that if given the chance, the Palestinian terror group will repeat similar assaults many times in the future until Israel is exterminated.

The remarks by Ghazi Hamad, a member of Hamas’s political bureau, were swiftly shared online by Israeli and Western officials as a vindication of the Jewish state’s resolve to destroy the terror group’s military capabilities in its ongoing war in Gaza, and as proof that no ceasefire can be reached until the threat of additional murderous attacks is removed.

“Israel is a country that has no place on our land,” Hamad said in an interview with Lebanese TV channel LBC on October 24, which was translated and published Wednesday by the Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI). “We must remove it because it constitutes a security, military and political catastrophe to the Arab and Islamic nation. We are not ashamed to say this.”

In the interview, Hamad said that Israel’s existence is “illogical” and that it must be wiped off all “Palestinian lands,” a term the terror group uses to mean the West Bank, Gaza and Israel, minus the Golan Heights.
When asked whether this meant the complete annihilation of Israel, Hamas replied: “Yes, of course.”

“We must teach Israel a lesson, and we will do it twice and three times. The Al-Aqsa Deluge [the name Hamas gave its October 7 onslaught] is just the first time, and there will be a second, a third, a fourth,” Hamad continued. “Will we have to pay a price? Yes, and we are ready to pay it. We are called a nation of martyrs, and we are proud to sacrifice martyrs.”

 

[dad]

Then why did God call Israel "my people" while they were scattered from the Land of Israel? Your position makes no sense at all except for utter HATRED and jealousy.

Romans 11
1 I say then, has God cast away His people? Certainly not! For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
2 God has not cast away His people whom He foreknew.

They were still His people when He sent Babylon to take them away captive. That did not mean they were in the land or protected there. There is a time set aside for Israel in the end where God will again deal with His people Israel. Only after that time when they get saved will He restore them to the promised land.

 

[dad]

You should be HAPPY instead of cursing Israel all the time! You're only cursing yourself and possibly your loved ones!

Romans 11
11 I say then, have they stumbled that they should fall? Certainly not! But through their fall, to provoke them to jealousy, salvation has come to the Gentiles.

God will be happy when they are saved in the end and so will we and so will they.

 

[Jack]

Hamas official says group aims to repeat Oct. 7 onslaught many times to destroy Israel

Ghazi Hamad, of terror group’s politburo, hails assault in which civilians were systematically murdered, saying ‘there will be a second, a third, a fourth’..​

• 
  Senior Hamas official Ghazi Hamad speaks in an interview with Lebanese channel LBC on October 24, 2023.

A senior member of Hamas has hailed the systematic slaughter of civilians in Israel on October 7, vowing in an interview that if given the chance, the Palestinian terror group will repeat similar assaults many times in the future until Israel is exterminated.

The remarks by Ghazi Hamad, a member of Hamas’s political bureau, were swiftly shared online by Israeli and Western officials as a vindication of the Jewish state’s resolve to destroy the terror group’s military capabilities in its ongoing war in Gaza, and as proof that no ceasefire can be reached until the threat of additional murderous attacks is removed.

“Israel is a country that has no place on our land,” Hamad said in an interview with Lebanese TV channel LBC on October 24, which was translated and published Wednesday by the Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI). “We must remove it because it constitutes a security, military and political catastrophe to the Arab and Islamic nation. We are not ashamed to say this.”

In the interview, Hamad said that Israel’s existence is “illogical” and that it must be wiped off all “Palestinian lands,” a term the terror group uses to mean the West Bank, Gaza and Israel, minus the Golan Heights.
When asked whether this meant the complete annihilation of Israel, Hamas replied: “Yes, of course.”

“We must teach Israel a lesson, and we will do it twice and three times. The Al-Aqsa Deluge [the name Hamas gave its October 7 onslaught] is just the first time, and there will be a second, a third, a fourth,” Hamad continued. “Will we have to pay a price? Yes, and we are ready to pay it. We are called a nation of martyrs, and we are proud to sacrifice martyrs.”

And don't think they wouldn't do the same to the US if they could.

 

[dad]

What do you suggest they do to make sure those shooters never rape and murder women and children again?

Nothing they probably can do. I guess it is not safe to be in that land now. Only after God protects and restores them to the land can they be safe

 

[dad]

I never said they did

You’re not listening.

If civilians who do not vote are mass targeted, that does not tell you something?

 

[dad]

Then he will not help GAZA,

I don't see why not, children being bombed is help worthy

 

[dad]

That's a good point. Are they civil? Define that. Living amongst Hamas, more than half voting for and approving of their actions.

So you want to destroy say half the people for the wrong vote? God is not like that. He would not have destroyed Sodom if even 5 righteous men had been found

Most of the young men are unemployed,

Maybe Israel should not fence them in?

therefore producing nothing, offering nothing to the world, following a false religion that promotes Jihad and hate towards anyone who is not a Muslim, whose goal is to convert the world or have them suffer the consequences. Sure, real civilized. They are antiChrists.

How do prisoners offer stuff to the world?

Keep in mind what Jesus will do when He returns and also that God is sovereign, He is allowing all this to take place and continue. That is what you are unaware of, His intentions and plan including all that is happening! It is the Beginning of Sorrows and will escalate towards Armageddon. It was written about. And this is the beginning.

No. I think He is allowing the heart of unsaved Israel to be seen and will be justified in the things coming on that nation in the tribulation.

And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.” Zech 12:3

And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem. And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. Zech. 12:9, 10

For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city. Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south. Zech.” 14:2-4

Yes in that day they get saved everything changes.

 

[dad]

What is it you disagree with?

1. Hamas uses human shields
2. The only safe path is to destroy Hamas.

BTW, war tends to be dangerous. Israel did not want this war. Hamas Islamic Jihadi’s are fanatical.

Don't destroy babies. You can't separate the innocent from the guilty. The one bomb fits all policy is terrorism.

 

[dad]

Israel are not terrorists. But if you are not justifying terrorism, why do you object to Israel’s actions but not Hamas?

We will disagree. I see this as possibly the worst terrorism in human history.

 

[Wrangler]

Don't destroy babies. You can't separate the innocent from the guilty. The one bomb fits all policy is terrorism.

The guilty could separate themselves from the innocent. But this is not how evil works. It is Hamas who uses human shields. It is dispicable and Hamas will not get away with it.