A heretical teaching dismantled with the help of Paul the Evangelist.

[Taken]

So, you didn't verify every testimony in any of the books that make up the Bible?

VERIFY, EVERY individuals testimony…in Scripture? LOL, no.

I KNOW my own standing, and KNOW WHY my own standing is concluded.

Others who testify of their Standing, especially Persons I do not know WHY they believe what they do, that is not inline with my beliefs. Sure. I disagree.

So what? You quoting men, I have never heard of, I have never know, are not mentioned in Scripture….is of no pressing matter to me.
I have a teacher of Gods Word, whom I know, whom is with me 24-7.

 

[David in NJ]

My WORDS , how can this man give us his flesh to eat or blood to drink .
THEY THOUGHT , LIKE THE RCC , that JESUS meant this literally .
BUT , take heed to the first two words . MY WORDS are SPIRIT and THEY ARE LIFE .
TRY EATING OF THEM WORDS and not the lies of the RCC . and as far as communion
I do communion . IN remembrance of HIM . But you folks see as do the jewish leaders of old days .
THE RCC has literally replaced the Once wicked leaders of the jewish temple . THEY teach for DOCTRINE
the precepts of men . Yeah learn that and fast . THEY TEACH TO WORSHIP GOD by the precepts of men .
EAT HIS WORDS MY FRIEND . LOVE THOSE WORDS , OBEY THEM FROM THE HEART .

Spirit gives Life to Spirit = "the flesh profits nothing"

 

[Taken]

A staff member who is part of the encounter team laughing at a member of this forum. Hmmmm........very professional.

Laughter is not forbidden, by God or on this forum.

Name calling is not forbidden, by God but is to some degree forbidden on this forum.
AS: I name call people you are in agreement with Catholics.
AS: You chose to use the name calling ILK, as your disapproval of people to whit we are in agreement.

No matter.
Personal disagreements will continue, Religious disagreements will continue, Political disagreements will continue…
Night and Day will continue…
With and Without will continue…
it’s called DIVISION.

Division will not END until Jesus Returns and the Divided are Separated.

 

[Sigma]

VERIFY, EVERY individuals testimony…in Scripture? LOL, no.

Is there any testimony in any of the books that make up the Bible that you've verified?

You have quoted indications of men who wrote their indications….what some 400 years after Jesus’ death? why would I consider their testimony?

I put each's birth and death date next to their name, so I don't know how you came to the conclusion of 400 years. If you look at them, you'll see their testimones were written either between decades after Jesus's death, to a couple hundred years after His death, for most of them. What's your excuse now for not wanting to consider their testimonies?

 

[Taken]

Marymog
“All the Protestant denominations disagree on 'the Truth'.

Curious Mary

I don’t know of ONE protestant denomination who disagrees that the TRUTH is Jesus.

 

[Marymog]

Laughter is not forbidden, by God or on this forum.

Name calling is not forbidden, by God but is to some degree forbidden on this forum.
AS: I name call people you are in agreement with Catholics.
AS: You chose to use the name calling ILK, as your disapproval of people to whit we are in agreement.

No matter.
Personal disagreements will continue, Religious disagreements will continue, Political disagreements will continue…
Night and Day will continue…
With and Without will continue…
it’s called DIVISION.

Division will not END until Jesus Returns and the Divided are Separated.

Ummm Taken....are you going to respond to the rest of my post? Or ignore it? I know, I backed you into a corner with logic and Scripture...now it's time to ignore Marymog

Laughing AT someone is different than laughing kiddo. But you will never acknowledge when you are wrong...Will you?

Look up the word "ilk". It has nothing to do with 'disapproval of people to whit we are in agreement'. I didn't do that. That is a false allegation.

In your post you got 3 things wrong. Care to try again?

I know that division and disagreements will continue. That's not breaking news....but Scripture preaches against it. You do know that....Don't you?

So who will Jesus divide and separate when he returns? My ilk or your ilk? Both of us can't be right!

 

[Marymog]

@Taken, my mind is not boggled. I have been very clear what I believe and backed it up with Scripture and Christian history. But I get it. That is another way for you degrade your fellow forum members,,,,and they made you a staff member and part of the 'encounter team'? Why?

The only encounter I have had with you is a negative one.....;)

I hope others on your team are nicer than you.

 

[Marymog]

I don’t know of ONE protestant denomination who disagrees that the TRUTH is Jesus.

That's not what we are discussing or disagreeing on.......Wanna' try again?

 

[Marymog]

When ol amigo arrives it wont take long for the RCCC to arrive . The Roman catholic churches calvary
who come to defend its mantra against TRUTH . very sad indeed .

Once again....you make no sense. Par for the course....

No. Wait. You do make sense (in your own brain). YOU know the truth.....so anyone that goes against YOUR TRUTH they are against THE truth

Very sad indeed...

 

[Marymog]

The church didnt . But as far as concering the RCC , YA DONT HEED IT , for it has twisted many things .

Lol....once again amogo you can't answer the question.....par for the course.

What salvific doctrine is The Catholic Church not heeding?

I know you won't answer....but it's worth a shot!

 

[Taken]

Is there any testimony in any of the books that make up the Bible that you've verified?



I put each's birth and death date next to their name, so I don't know how you came to the conclusion of 400 years. If you look at them, you'll see their testimones were written either between decades after Jesus's death, to a couple hundred years after His death, for most of them. What's your excuse now for not wanting to consider their testimonies?

I’m sure people who could Write were writing before Jesus was revealed, during Jesus’ time on Earth and after Jesus returned to Heaven.

So? Even some men may have knew a guy, who knew a guy, who knew one of Jesus’ chosen 12.
So? Even some men may have heard one of Jesus’ chosen 12 come to their town and speak?

Why would it be bothersome to you, if I don’t elect to spend my time reading NON-Scripture to Learn About Gods Approved Word in Scripture?

 

[Taken]

Ummm Taken....are you going to respond to the rest of my post? Or ignore it?

Ignoring it should be obvious to you.

 

[Marymog]

Laughter is not forbidden, by God or on this forum.

Name calling is not forbidden, by God but is to some degree forbidden on this forum.
AS: I name call people you are in agreement with Catholics.
AS: You chose to use the name calling ILK, as your disapproval of people to whit we are in agreement.

No matter.
Personal disagreements will continue, Religious disagreements will continue, Political disagreements will continue…
Night and Day will continue…
With and Without will continue…
it’s called DIVISION.

Division will not END until Jesus Returns and the Divided are Separated.

Lets try this again. Are you going to address this? Or run?

Anyways, I know that Protestants have rejected the councils of The Church. That's not breaking news........That rejection is what has divided Christianity and prevented Jesus' prayer that we all become one (John 17:20-23) from coming true. Now who would want Jesus prayer not to come true? Ummmm....Taken? No, no that's not it. David in NJ? No, david wants Jesus prayer to come true. Amigo de christo or face2face? No, they love Jesus. I know they want his prayer to come true.......I got it....SATAN!!! And yet the 4 of you are still divided.....aren't you???

Also, I am not "shocked that people outside of the Catholic Church membership….Have Agreements." Not surprisingly, you missed the point entirely. Why did you miss the point? Because thru your bias you have taken sides. Let me help you out.

Scripture says that the Church is the pillar and foundation of truth (1 Timothy 3:15) and that we are to go to the Church to settle our differences because the Church has the final say in the matter and if we reject the teachings of the church we are to be treated as a pagan (Matthew 18:17)! Scripture tells us to obey are elders (Hebrews 13:17). You and your ilk ( @David in NJ @amigo de christo @face2face ) reject all these passages from Scripture and The Church follows them. You obey no one and you are always right and you decide who is to be treated as a pagan. Yet you accuse us Catholics of not following Scripture!! Weird!! Really, really weird.

Now, just because the 4 of you agree with each other on some matters......that doesn't make you right. That doesn't mean you are teaching the Truth. That is unless you think YOU fulfill 1 Timothy 3:15. Do you think YOU fulfil that passage Taken????? (you don't need to answer, I already know). How about you david? Amigo? Face2face? Do any of you fulfil 1 Timothy 3:15?

Also, it doesn't matter if "all Catholic Church members are in agreement". It only matters if The Church is right. Then we have to 'agree' to it. Because the Church is the pillar and foundation of Truth and if you disagree with the Truth you disagree with The Church....At least that is what Scripture says. You 4 seem to think that if I disagree with YOU then I am disagreeing with the Truth. That is why you 4 kiddos crack me up

 

[Taken]

So who will Jesus divide and separate when he returns? My ilk or your ilk? Both of us can't be right!

Scripture plainly reveals.
With Him separated unto Him.
Without Him separated from Him.

Every man shall receive his due reward of how they spent their efforts.
Glorifying God? …merit of reward given.
Glorifying statues, glorifying people, blah, blah…efforts burned.

 

[Taken]

Lets try this again. Are you going to address this? Or run?

Anyways, I know that Protestants have rejected the councils of The Church.

Catholics such as yourself have Decided “THE” Church “IS” expressly “THE CATHOLIC CHURCH”…

Protestants used to PROTEST and modernly simply REJECT that language and notion.
Protestants are favorable to “THE CHURCH” is the embodiment OF Christ the Lord Jesus.

The Jews had a TEMPLE, a building made with mens hands. A place for men to Offer their sin offerings of animals and their blood.

Did you miss the Lesson?

Mark 14:
[58] We heard him say, I will destroy this temple that is made with hands, and within three days I will build another made without hands.

Do you not know it was the embodiment of Christ Jesus raised up in 3 days? His Church, build and made without the hands of men?

The Headquarters of the Catholic Church is in an enclave called Vatican City.

The Headquarters of the Protestant Church is IN Christ Jesus, called the Power and Word of God.

 

[David in NJ]

Lets try this again. Are you going to address this? Or run?

Anyways, I know that Protestants have rejected the councils of The Church. That's not breaking news........That rejection is what has divided Christianity and prevented Jesus' prayer that we all become one (John 17:20-23) from coming true. Now who would want Jesus prayer not to come true? Ummmm....Taken? No, no that's not it. David in NJ? No, david wants Jesus prayer to come true. Amigo de christo or face2face? No, they love Jesus. I know they want his prayer to come true.......I got it....SATAN!!! And yet the 4 of you are still divided.....aren't you???

Also, I am not "shocked that people outside of the Catholic Church membership….Have Agreements." Not surprisingly, you missed the point entirely. Why did you miss the point? Because thru your bias you have taken sides. Let me help you out.

Scripture says that the Church is the pillar and foundation of truth (1 Timothy 3:15) and that we are to go to the Church to settle our differences because the Church has the final say in the matter and if we reject the teachings of the church we are to be treated as a pagan (Matthew 18:17)! Scripture tells us to obey are elders (Hebrews 13:17). You and your ilk ( @David in NJ @amigo de christo @face2face ) reject all these passages from Scripture and The Church follows them. You obey no one and you are always right and you decide who is to be treated as a pagan. Yet you accuse us Catholics of not following Scripture!! Weird!! Really, really weird.

Now, just because the 4 of you agree with each other on some matters......that doesn't make you right. That doesn't mean you are teaching the Truth. That is unless you think YOU fulfill 1 Timothy 3:15. Do you think YOU fulfil that passage Taken????? (you don't need to answer, I already know). How about you david? Amigo? Face2face? Do any of you fulfil 1 Timothy 3:15?

Also, it doesn't matter if "all Catholic Church members are in agreement". It only matters if The Church is right. Then we have to 'agree' to it. Because the Church is the pillar and foundation of Truth and if you disagree with the Truth you disagree with The Church....At least that is what Scripture says. You 4 seem to think that if I disagree with YOU then I am disagreeing with the Truth. That is why you 4 kiddos crack me up

@Marymog says: "Anyways, I know that Protestants have rejected the councils of Roman Catholicism.

Well YEAH, since RCC rejects the council of God

 

[face2face]

I don't even know what you mean by "spiritual insight into your teaching"! That make zero sense in regards to the subject matter!!

The confessions of a catholic mind!

This comment just sums up the entire thread and the hundreds of copying and pasting posts from Sigma.

It's tantamount to saying "who needs spiritual insight!"...we are happy to prove what is pointless.

Thanks Mog I needed a got belly laugh this morning.

F2F

 

[face2face]

A staff member who is part of the encounter team laughing at a member of this forum. Hmmmm........very professional.

Wait...is someone else finding your posts funny? At least you know you can't be taken serious with your perpetual virginity dogma! It's a joke watching you plead its cause.

F2F

 

[Sigma]

I’m sure people who could Write were writing before Jesus was revealed, during Jesus’ time on Earth and after Jesus returned to Heaven.

So? Even some men may have knew a guy, who knew a guy, who knew one of Jesus’ chosen 12.
So? Even some men may have heard one of Jesus’ chosen 12 come to their town and speak?

Why would it be bothersome to you, if I don’t elect to spend my time reading NON-Scripture to Learn About Gods Approved Word in Scripture?

None of that answers the following questions. Here they are again:

VERIFY, EVERY individuals testimony…in Scripture? LOL, no.

Is there any testimony in any of the books that make up the Bible that you've verified?

You have quoted indications of men who wrote their indications….what some 400 years after Jesus’ death? why would I consider their testimony?

I put each's birth and death date next to their name, so I don't know how you came to the conclusion of 400 years. If you look at them, you'll see their testimones were written either between decades after Jesus's death, to a couple hundred years after His death, for most of them. What's your excuse now for not wanting to consider their testimonies?

 

[Taken]

@Marymog says: "Anyways, I know that Protestants have rejected the councils of Roman Catholicism.

Well YEAH, since RCC rejects the council of God

Inanutshell…
Jews were chosen to hear, learn, and teach the Word of God…according to Christ Jesus’ Gospel.

And for awhile, Jews traveled to Jewish settlements, preaching in synagogues to:
Jewish men, Jewish women, Gentile men, Gentile women.

Jewish teachers began appointing Jews and Gentiles in positions to hear, learn, and teach the Word of God….according to Christ Jesus’ Gospel.

Jews in synagogues began reverting to teaching Jews in their synagogues Mosaic Law, while phasing out the teaching according to Christ Jesus’ Gospel.

Gentiles, Men, Women, began teaching the Gospel of Christ Jesus, in homes, in gatherings, in buildings used as a meeting house, in buildings erected and called a church.

Some of the church buildings were very elaborate, ornate, and established counsels of a few men, who began making long lists of what their congregates should and should not believe. Some elaborated to include their Reasoning of Why the congregates should believe what they dictate and even concocted books for approved beliefs and their opinionated texts of WHAT the scripture means, WHY they should believe only what they say.

Sort of a clever scheme, making the BIBLE text of Knowledge second fiddle AND making the Express Language in Gods Approved Scripture, that ONLY the Lord God Himself gives individuals the UNDERSTANDING of His Knowledge, for naught.

A conundrum…
Men are curious creatures. Some men beg for the Understanding of Gods Word to be Proved to them, BEFORE they will even consider Believing the Scriptural text of Knowledge.

Completely Backwards…
Read/Hear Gods word of Knowledge…
Believe it or not.
Believe it? When it is the perfect time for you to UNDERSTAND the Knowledge. The Lord God Himself will Give you His UNDERSTANDING!


Job 32:
[8] But there is a spirit in man: and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding.