So we are not mind readers here. What land exactly where is it that you think someone (who exactly?) gets?
Since more children and people have been killed by Israel than in the terrorist attack, should they stop?
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ScottA
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You say things that are not your opinion?
I see. So you among all posters here you think you are piping all things directly from the Almighty as opposed to other Christians.
So clear it up. Pipe something clear in here.
ScottA
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How did you think these things told to the church were supposed to work--that Jesus left us to squabble among ourselves with nothing but our opinion and our own understanding?
Of course I have an opinion--but I don't allow myself. Why would I speak over the top of or differently than what is true from God? I would not, nor do I.
You think God is dead and finished speaking by the Holy Spirit among men? Do you not believe what is written, and that He gave gifts to men to be put to use and service during these times?
No, there are not "oodles of things He still does with Israel.
That is not what or how it is written, but rather, "Assuredly, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation" and, saying "you"--not a future generation but "you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Power, and coming with the clouds of heaven.” After which, having come "except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel", He also said, "It is finished."
So we were supposed to wait for you so that all other interpretations could be dismissed as false?
Why would anyone? Yet things are discussed by believers. The trick is to have a strong bible case and be able to convey it in posts.
No, of course not. But when one person claims some sort of monopoly on hearing from God or interpreting one would be wise to raise an eyebrow
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No? So no invasion or time of trouble and subsequent salvation is coming? Good thing we have an oracle of God here to correct the bible I guess.
That is one prophesy regarding certain events. Not some all encompassing vision of the future of Israel.
I agree, great for the correction.
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ScottA
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It is meant that you should perceive that these things (Lamb, bread, sheep, land, etc.) have been given in parable.
Did you not know that having been sent out from the presence of God "eastward", and that the land was given, "from the east unto the west" to every tribe of Israel...that it meant returning to God?
The promise "land" pertains rather to the kingdom of heaven, not that of this world.
ScottA
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Whether you mock or flatter me does not change the truth from God, except that it places you in grave danger if you do mock.
But just as it is written, "but in the days of the sounding of the seventh angel, when he is about to sound, the mystery of God would be finished, as He declared to His servants the prophets."
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ScottA
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Good, then rise an eyebrow!
But what is the biblical precedence on how to receive those sent from God? Do your worst or do your best, that much is between you and God. But I caution you--what now comes, comes not by flesh and blood, but by the Holy Spirit who is not to be spoken against.
Now the other side of the coin:
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I do not know if both sides in the current war are using child soldiers.
Not in any way is that remotely true. Should all believers in Egypt now flee to the desert, taking the jewelry of the Egyptians and put blood on their door posts?
Pointing at something God ordered His believing people to do in the far past does not give people now the right to do the same. That is ridiculous. By that same token we could say He commands Hamas to do the same now, or Hezbollah, or Germany etc etc.
Nothing changes your vague posts to transform them into God's spirit talking while other posters are wrong. What you need to do is defend a point with Scripture and we'll see how it fares/ So far not well at all. Your idea God won't give Israel the promised land one day on earth, for example.
ScottA
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I am not correcting the bible, but explaining what is actually written.
As for "no invasion or time of trouble and subsequent salvation coming"-- Salvation began to come with the coming of Christ, and indeed was finished on the cross. But you misunderstand, that [was] the greatest time of tribulation the world will ever know, which comes upon men "but each one in his own order", and yet upon Christ that very hour...and "It is finished."
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ScottA
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Do I need to tell you everything?
That is not at all the biblical method, but rather:
But the word of the Lord was to them, “Precept upon precept, precept upon precept, Line upon line, line upon line, Here a little, there a little,” That they might go and fall backward, and be broken And snared and caught.
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