Since more children and people have been killed by Israel than in the terrorist attack, should they stop?

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Not get rid of it. See that it was fulfilled with Jesus. Then look at the new covenant He gave us. There is no Jewish claim on the promised land but that God will give it to them. That is not some carte blanche to take it before or dispossess or kill.
Will give it to them?

God hasn't yet given the Jews their promised land?
 

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Will give it to them?

God hasn't yet given the Jews their promised land?
No. They came there by choice. God will bring them from all over once all Israel gets saved in the end. The displacing of families and taking their lands, putting them in camps etc etc etc was not of God. We can't blame Him.
God will allow nations to invade them, and the horrible time of Jacob's trouble where most of the nation are killed and etc. When they finally get saved in the end, no more will anyone ever lift a finger against them. They will be restored and protected.
 

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No, I think he's saying Israel should do nothing to defend against terrorism.
Like in Australia, the Governments have imported radical Arabs and do nothing !
I have been warned by Arabs time and time again of such Arabs that Australia has let in, For they have anti-Discrimination Laws they idolise in fact !
They the Government and us the Australian people can not discriminate between who is who ! and the Arabs that try to inform Australians about such are disregarded totally by our MSM in fact. One of such Arabs who are happy to become Australians, said he was bushed over by our Media. the other type of Arab's are all about working to undermine every Nation and to dominate over everyone totally like a mongrel dog.
I have been warned by such Arabs in the streets for years and even had some come to our political meetings to express themselves and what really goes on over in such Lands.

The Israel PM is correct about what he said of late about such people being animals. You do not do what they did and tolerate such at all. But we have the Greens supporting such morons here and the Left as well. And we now have such idiots in the streets of Australia saying chanting Gas the Jews ! Such They ranting as such should be all kicked out of Australia for saying such an evil intent. They are noting but Trouble and they are only going to get worse in fact.

Why should we have to put up with such as that intent ! Terrorism is going to get a lot worse in the future in fact, because of our Governments and MSM playing such against our people ! We did not want them and the Government and MSM said to hell with us ! you all are going to have to have all such idiot radicals and all regardless, because we have had no rights to have a Say on the question in fact !
For the MSM and Governments claim anyone who has another opinion on the subject is a racist in fact ! and we all know that the first commandment says about Racist ? In the Book of Communist :rolleyes: You are not allowed to discriminate for all are the same ? did you not know that ?:rolleyes:
Not to mention such words have been bastardised over the years so as to be looking at things from the Socialist doctrine, so Discrimination becomes like one is being discriminated against ? Unjustly :rolleyes:! but in the free world, to be able to discriminate means to be able to pick the difference between reality in fact ? Such is not Prejudice at all in fact ! One has the right to have a regard ! but from the Socialist point of view, all are lowered to a point that your opinions mean nothing, because you do not have a right to a real opinion in fact, for you are a Slave to their Political gods, that they clam are correct !
Racial Prejudice is totally another thing entirely in fact ! but the Socialist Devils only try to muddy such waters with their dribble.
Racial prejudice means one is an idiot in fact but a Racist could only mean that you understand the issue between such things, that you have a handle on such ? but Socialist do not understand such depth, for they are brainwashed idiots as Reality does not compute to such simple short sighted narrow minded blighted idiots.
 

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The point is we do not pray for those in heaven but here. You were wrong.

No, that's backwards. You are missing the point-- "we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places."

Even so, pray for the people.
 

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No. They came there by choice. God will bring them from all over once all Israel gets saved in the end. The displacing of families and taking their lands, putting them in camps etc etc etc was not of God. We can't blame Him.
God will allow nations to invade them, and the horrible time of Jacob's trouble where most of the nation are killed and etc. When they finally get saved in the end, no more will anyone ever lift a finger against them. They will be restored and protected.
The bible doesn't say that.


Like in Australia, the Governments have imported radical Arabs and do nothing !
I have been warned by Arabs time and time again of such Arabs that Australia has let in, For they have anti-Discrimination Laws they idolise in fact !
They the Government and us the Australian people can not discriminate between who is who ! and the Arabs that try to inform Australians about such are disregarded totally by our MSM in fact. One of such Arabs who are happy to become Australians, said he was bushed over by our Media. the other type of Arab's are all about working to undermine every Nation and to dominate over everyone totally like a mongrel dog.
I have been warned by such Arabs in the streets for years and even had some come to our political meetings to express themselves and what really goes on over in such Lands.

The Israel PM is correct about what he said of late about such people being animals. You do not do what they did and tolerate such at all. But we have the Greens supporting such morons here and the Left as well. And we now have such idiots in the streets of Australia saying chanting Gas the Jews ! Such They ranting as such should be all kicked out of Australia for saying such an evil intent. They are noting but Trouble and they are only going to get worse in fact.

Why should we have to put up with such as that intent ! Terrorism is going to get a lot worse in the future in fact, because of our Governments and MSM playing such against our people ! We did not want them and the Government and MSM said to hell with us ! you all are going to have to have all such idiot radicals and all regardless, because we have had no rights to have a Say on the question in fact !
For the MSM and Governments claim anyone who has another opinion on the subject is a racist in fact ! and we all know that the first commandment says about Racist ? In the Book of Communist :rolleyes: You are not allowed to discriminate for all are the same ? did you not know that ?:rolleyes:
Not to mention such words have been bastardised over the years so as to be looking at things from the Socialist doctrine, so Discrimination becomes like one is being discriminated against ? Unjustly :rolleyes:! but in the free world, to be able to discriminate means to be able to pick the difference between reality in fact ? Such is not Prejudice at all in fact ! One has the right to have a regard ! but from the Socialist point of view, all are lowered to a point that your opinions mean nothing, because you do not have a right to a real opinion in fact, for you are a Slave to their Political gods, that they clam are correct !
Racial Prejudice is totally another thing entirely in fact ! but the Socialist Devils only try to muddy such waters with their dribble.
Racial prejudice means one is an idiot in fact but a Racist could only mean that you understand the issue between such things, that you have a handle on such ? but Socialist do not understand such depth, for they are brainwashed idiots as Reality does not compute to such simple short sighted narrow minded blighted idiots.

This future is not going to turn out well. :(
 

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No, that's backwards. You are missing the point-- "we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places."

Even so, pray for the people.
In other words bad spiritual forces try to oppose Him on earth and by His power we fight that here. Nothing to do with going into space and fighting angels or whatever you imagine. The people who need prayer are on earth.
 

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The bible doesn't say that.
It does tell of a time of trouble for them coming and how a remnant will be saved and then brought back to the land, protected etc actually. Until then they are not going to be. They will be severely tried invaded persecuted etc etc. Nor is it God's will that they blow up babies by the way. You cannot blame God for any of it.
 

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First thing I would do is inform the country that the only way to safety is Jesus. Not only that, but as soon as they accept Him, it will happen! No need for an army. No need to even live in that land now, since Jesus will give it all to you as soon as all Israel is saved! Great news. There is no other way, no other answer. All efforts to use the arm of the flesh are doomed to fail. That would be my advice.
So you would allow Hamas, Hezbollah, Al-Aqsa martyrs Brigade , Fatah, Iran a et. al. Just run and butcher all your citizens god put you in charge of to protect. WOW!
OK and that makes it OK to blast apartments full of people? How about asking why they are so weird and fanatical? Look at where and how they live and what they lost. They have reason for anger. How should that be dealt with? By killing hundreds of their children? I think that will just increase the problem

What makes it Okay for Hamas to mow down innocent people attending a music festival? What makes it ok for Hamas to behead and defile baby corpses in front of their parents? But as the leader, according to the statement above, you would let them all die and tell them to just accept Jesus. At least Israel gives 24 hour warning to leave those buildings. If they stay it is on them.
That is a problem. The solution to that problem is not killing babies.
Well it is Hamas thart is intentionally and deliberately butchering babies. You seem to think war is a nice neat nono messy thing. It is horrible and civilians will get killed no matter what. At least Israel, like the US and the EU use precision guided bombs to reduce as much as they can innocent deaths. Hamas goes for the innocents first!
Yes. Hellish evil. Look at what you said was bad. Killing innocents etc. Does blowing up apartment after apartment seem better to you?
Well why don't you answer what your saolution as PM of Israel is to protect your people from the genocide Hamas wishes to do in this invasion?
I already said the only answer is Jesus. You see, when He brings them back to that land after they believe He will take care of any enemies. He knows how to do it. He did not bring them there yet. So being there naturally will be fraught with problems. It will also lead to the time of Jacob's trouble.
Okay so until Jesus comes back, you will allow open borders and let all those who have declared genocide against you rpeople to come in and maim and kill and rape. Hope you never even get elected as a dog catcher!
 

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In other words bad spiritual forces try to oppose Him on earth and by His power we fight that here. Nothing to do with going into space and fighting angels or whatever you imagine. The people who need prayer are on earth.

As long as your focus is upon the things of this world, the world is what you will see. But the reality and actual truth of and from God is rather that all things have their existence in heavenly places.

So (again) no, and your attempting to fight the fires of heaven among men and for men as if the flesh of this world is to be saved...is as far off as the earth is from heaven.

"Do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." Matthew 10:28
 

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It seems occupied by another evil these days. Guess the answer was not violence after all.
If you are an American,you live speaking English,not German, because of violence that secured your freedoms.

If you're Christian you live worshipping the God of the Old and New Testament s. If you're honest,and you read the Bible, you know Jesus is God. And the God of the Bible was never a non-violent pacifist.

And if you deny that fact,that's OK. Because the ultimate proof of those facts is, God first created Hell for his fallen first and most beautiful angel, Lucifer.And his fellow fallen angels who followed Lucifer in committing the first sin in Heaven.Waging war against God.
Then, after creating Hell to torture Lucifer and his angels for eternity after they lost their war,God opened Hell to receive fallen people.

It is all so very tragic when an American condemns violence that set and keeps them free.

Ingrates. They live under the blanket of freedom violence insured.And that coincides with disrespect for those who suffered horrifically violent deaths,and inflicted them on our enemies intent on taking our country, in order to insure that freedom.

And when those people who hold no respect for American and Biblical history fly a red white and blue Christian flag,while condemning violence they demonstrate an unconsciousness as pertains to just how Christianity became the foremost dominant populace religion on the face of this God made Earth.

Violence! Centuries of bloody violence. In the name of God.
 

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OK and that makes it OK to blast apartments full of people? How about asking why they are so weird and fanatical? Look at where and how they live and what they lost. They have reason for anger. How should that be dealt with? By killing hundreds of their children? I think that will just increase the problem
Since it is a well known international fact that Hams hides their terrorists and munitions in neighborhoods and schools and hospitals to use to kill Israelis, as leader you would rather see your own babies killed and butchered so as to not see a Palestinian civilian killed because Hamas uses them as human shields.
 

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So you would allow Hamas, Hezbollah, Al-Aqsa martyrs Brigade , Fatah, Iran a et. al. Just run and butcher all your citizens god put you in charge of to protect. WOW!
No. I would not be there because I would not have pretended God wanted me to steal their lands and imprison them in camps. So why would they attack me? The answer I gave for you was regarding what they could do now. If they believed in their Messiah, no Hamas or anyone else would ever be able to lift a finger against them.

What makes it Okay for Hamas to mow down innocent people attending a music festival? What makes it ok for Hamas to behead and defile baby corpses in front of their parents? But as the leader, according to the statement above, you would let them all die and tell them to just accept Jesus. At least Israel gives 24 hour warning to leave those buildings. If they stay it is on them.
Nothing. They are terrorists that kill civilians including babies. The question is why is Israel not better than them?

Well it is Hamas thart is intentionally and deliberately butchering babies. You seem to think war is a nice neat nono messy thing. It is horrible and civilians will get killed no matter what. At least Israel, like the US and the EU use precision guided bombs to reduce as much as they can innocent deaths. Hamas goes for the innocents first!
If you blow them up in apartments that is intentionally killing them also.
Well why don't you answer what your saolution as PM of Israel is to protect your people from the genocide Hamas wishes to do in this invasion?
Already done. Repent and get saved. There IS no other way. But if you want to be just another regular secular nation then how about being civilized??

Okay so until Jesus comes back, you will allow open borders and let all those who have declared genocide against you rpeople to come in and maim and kill and rape. Hope you never even get elected as a dog catcher!
When He returns it does not matter at all where Jewish people are that believe in Him as the all (who are left alive still then) God will take them back to that land and give it to them. No one will ever attack them again period. He will be there and be their God protecting them. There will be peace on earth.
 

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As long as your focus is upon the things of this world, the world is what you will see. But the reality and actual truth of and from God is rather that all things have their existence in heavenly places.
For prayer, our focus is on this world. That His will be done here one day, for example. We do not need to pray for Peter or Paul or David or anyone else in heaven!

So (again) no, and your attempting to fight the fires of heaven among men and for men as if the flesh of this world is to be saved...is as far off as the earth is from heaven.

"Do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." Matthew 10:28
Strange babel. How is realizing that people still on earth need prayer and not those in heaven 'fighting the fires of heaven'!? Weird
 

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If you are an American,you live speaking English,not German, because of violence that secured your freedoms.
I have relatives in Flanders field. Do you think they died so that there would be endless wars, children would be gender mutilated against parent's wishes, millions of the nations babies would be sacrificed by abortions, and God would be an enemy in schools etc? No. The soldiers in Germany had statues of angels carrying their dead to heaven just as we had the same here. God was not on both sides! They died in vain I would say. They were deceived and lied to. I think a better strategy might have been to secretly preach and get them converted over time like the early Christians did. Look what happened to Rome!
If you're Christian you live worshipping the God of the Old and New Testament s. If you're honest,and you read the Bible, you know Jesus is God. And the God of the Bible was never a non-violent pacifist.
Never said I was. I just do not want to kill babies and woman and children wholesale thank you very much. Get the guilty, not the innocent.
And if you deny that fact,that's OK. Because the ultimate proof of those facts is, God first created Hell for his fallen first and most beautiful angel, Lucifer.And his fellow fallen angels who followed Lucifer in committing the first sin in Heaven.Waging war against God.
Then, after creating Hell to torture Lucifer and his angels for eternity after they lost their war,God opened Hell to receive fallen people.

I think people vote to go to hell actually. Not sure what that has to do with anything in the thread though?

It is all so very tragic when an American condemns violence that set and keeps them free
If any American was free (?) it would be solely because of Jesus. He sets us free. Not Biden, etc.

Ingrates. They live under the blanket of freedom violence insured.And that coincides with disrespect for those who suffered horrifically violent deaths,and inflicted them on our enemies intent on taking our country, in order to insure that freedom.
Baloney! The corrupt system that exists in the world are never free of war. War did not make things perfect. War changed regimes that still fell into depravity and evil. War is not the answer it is part of the sin problem.
Violence! Centuries of bloody violence. In the name of God.
Who is bombing babies in Gaza as if ordered by God? You see those who claim such things are liars who also like to blame God.
 

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Since it is a well known international fact that Hams hides their terrorists and munitions in neighborhoods and schools and hospitals to use to kill Israelis, as leader you would rather see your own babies killed and butchered so as to not see a Palestinian civilian killed because Hamas uses them as human shields.
That is no excuse to mass murder civilians, sorry. As I mentioned my advice is to accept your Messiah. Then Hamas would be flicked away like an insect as would all enemies. Presto. The same day! (unless they also got saved of course:) )
 

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It does tell of a time of trouble for them coming and how a remnant will be saved and then brought back to the land, protected etc actually. Until then they are not going to be. They will be severely tried invaded persecuted etc etc. Nor is it God's will that they blow up babies by the way. You cannot blame God for any of it.

No one here is blaming God for the recent atrocities. On the contrary, we join you in your distain which is commendable.

But you misunderstand. What you are witnessing is not what it appears--you are seeing rather, Christ on the cross suffering the little children. And what you are seeing of us who are now speaking against you, we are His disciples given the opportunity to speak to Peter in you telling Christ “Far be it from You, Lord; this shall not happen to You!

And not understanding, you now act as if you have missed that "it pleased the Lord to bruise Him; He has put Him to grief. When You make His soul an offering for sin, He shall see His seed, He shall prolong His days, And the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in His hand." Isaiah 53:10
 
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Since it is a well known international fact that Hams hides their terrorists and munitions in neighborhoods and schools and hospitals to use to kill Israelis, as leader you would rather see your own babies killed and butchered so as to not see a Palestinian civilian killed because Hamas uses them as human shields.
They're not the first. The Vietkong did the same thing. ISIS,the Taliban, all secreted themselves among innocent civilians.
That way when the enemy would attack the propaganda would report their enemy attacked innocent men,women and children.

And people would be distracted by those reports and the outrage would undermine the allied effort.

Because those who reacted didn't realize,put it together,that those Innocents were dead because the enemy used them as shields .

And outraged Americans didn't realize that either. The only way those innocent's were killed is because their own people chose to make them a sacrifice to their effort.
 
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I have relatives in Flanders field. Do you think they died so that there would be endless wars, children would be gender mutilated against parent's wishes, millions of the nations babies would be sacrificed by abortions, and God would be an enemy in schools etc? No. The soldiers in Germany had statues of angels carrying their dead to heaven just as we had the same here. God was not on both sides! They died in vain I would say. They were deceived and lied to. I think a better strategy might have been to secretly preach and get them converted over time like the early Christians did. Look what happened to Rome!

Never said I was. I just do not want to kill babies and woman and children wholesale thank you very much. Get the guilty, not the innocent.


I think people vote to go to hell actually. Not sure what that has to do with anything in the thread though?


If any American was free (?) it would be solely because of Jesus. He sets us free. Not Biden, etc.


Baloney! The corrupt system that exists in the world are never free of war. War did not make things perfect. War changed regimes that still fell into depravity and evil. War is not the answer it is part of the sin problem.

Who is bombing babies in Gaza as if ordered by God?
Muslims! First blood in this conflict was drawn by terrorist Muslims.

You see those who claim such things are liars who also like to blame God.
You should know the Judeo-Christian histories.

For those of us who do, your umbrage is deeply artificial and wholly uninformed.

While your contempt for Israel,Jews,Christians,and America and Americans, is impossible to miss.

Anyone who is actually against violence does not defend violent terrorists as having a right to slaughter Israelis.