Who are the sons of God and the daughters of men

[David in NJ]

His word not you saying it is in the Bible.


I disagree, most people do believe or are trying to believe.
But it is people like you that cause confusion.
You do not represent the Word of God.
As before I have asked you to produce the Word of God saying that the sons of God were angels and you have not and cannot because it is not there.
Saying people do not have faith unless they believe you....is a deception....and a ploy used by cult leaders.

Unbelief does not represent the word of God.

All who believe God's word thru faith and have His Holy Spirit are God's Witnesses = Gospel of John & Acts and Revelation

 

[Grailhunter]

PhD is not required
PhD is a stumbling block for the overwhelming majority

I run into this, where the unknowledgeable try to justify their ignorance by implying that ignorance is spiritual and faithful.

 

[David in NJ]

I run into this, where the unknowledgeable try to justify their ignorance by implying that ignorance is spiritual and faithful.

Stay where you are.

 

[Grailhunter]

Unbelief does not represent the word of God.

All who believe God's word thru faith and have His Holy Spirit are God's Witnesses = Gospel of John & Acts and Revelation

So why don't you believe God's Word?
Why do you come up with your own?
Is the Holy Spirit leading you in the wrong direction?....putting words in God's mouth is spiritual? How did you come up with that is the right thing to do?

 

[David in NJ]

So why don't you believe God's Word?
Why do you come up with your own?
Is the Holy Spirit leading you in the wrong direction?....putting words in God's mouth is spiritual? How did you come up with that is the right thing to do?

Well, that's your opinion.

i follow what God has said and confirmed = in His word

Speaking for myself = there is no reason to doubt.

 

[Grailhunter]

i follow what God has said and confirmed = in His word

Prove it!

 

[ewq1938]

I don't accept YOUR interpretation that God the Father was the male parent of Jesus.

That comes from the bible not me.

 

[Davy]

You got nothing! Is this how you come up with your beliefs! Really there is no telling what you believe. I wish I could say that you are alone, but this is common....it is the reason....the reason....why there are so many denominations. The Bible says one thing and people believe something else or they just add words as they go......WORDS MEAN THINGS!!!! In theology the details that are there are important and just as important are the details that are not there. Pay attention to what you are reading! There no verse in the Bible that says the sons of God were angels. If there were they would have solved this centuries ago.

God is my witness by His Word that I declared. But your word is your own, and is not supported in His Word.

Job 1:6-7
6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.

7 And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
KJV

Thus what has bewitched you into DENYING THE WORD OF GOD??

 

[Marty fox]

Marty let's take a look at Jude which is the verification of the angels of Gen ch6

v5 - But I want to remind you, though you once knew this, that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe.

v5 is Key to the understanding and is simple, one sentence, truth of what God did and to whom.

a.) saved people (all who obeyed the Passover)

b.) Passover - they came out of Egypt and slavery

c.) afterward - after they left Egypt, crossed the Red Sea and came to wait at the base of the Mountain where the Moses went up to meet the LORD.

d.) afterward - some did not believe and they fell back into sexual immorality and God destroyed them = Exodus ch32

This is the Picture we are to SEE of God's Judgment upon the people who came out of Egypt and corrupted themselves with sexual immorality and thus were destroyed by God's anger.


v6 begins with "And" connects v6 to v5

v6 And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day;

Angels had a domain ordered by God which they could not leave, just as the people who came out of Egypt.

What did these angels do when they left their "proper domain"?

Answer = v7

v7 as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

The angels who left there domain against the will of God "came into the daughters of men" = "strange flesh"
just as Sodom and Gomorrah violated God's Ordination of Male to Female marriage and committed homosexuality, beastiality, rapes, orgies and more.

ALL three Groups committed sexual immorality of such degree that God Judged them as an example for us to FEAR.

1st Group - People who came out of Egypt committed sexual immorality = left the domain of purity in the Lord

2nd Group - Angels who left their proper domain and came into the daughters of men = left their Ordered Domain from the Lord

3rd Group - Sodom and Gomorrah = committed all kinds of sexual perversion = left the domain of purity before God

These 3 Groups are combined into one uniform message of WARNING in one uninterupted passage of Truth.

You are assuming and adding words to the scriptures the sexuality was about sodom and Gomorrah it wasn’t mentioned in the people from Egypt or the fallen angels in Jude. The proof is the very next verse verse 8 which also has no mention of sexual sin.

The Jews from Egypt were judged because they worshiped the golden caff the the fallen angels was because they sided with Satan not God as shown in revelation chapter 12.

The ones in verse 8 followed dreams and rejected god’s authority no mention of sexual sin in verse 8.

Verse 8 starts with the words “in the same way” this proves that it’s not akk about sexual sin in Jude.

I am stating exactly what the scriptures you referenced says there is no assumptions from me I am quoting exactly what the scriptures say.

 

[Grailhunter]

God is my witness by His Word that I declared. But your word is your own, and is not supported in His Word.

Job 1:6-7
6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.

7 And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
KJV

Thus what has bewitched you into DENYING THE WORD OF GOD??

If you notice the word angel does not appear in those scriptures....
You are assuming that angels are the only spiritual beings that it could be and you know what assume does?
And you should know that angels do not reproduce.

 

[ewq1938]

If you notice the word angel does not appear in those scriptures....
You are assuming that angels are the only spiritual beings that it could be and you know what assume does?
And you should know that angels do not reproduce.

Except they can and have. They aren't supposed to, but when angels rebel, they do things they shouldn't.

1Co 11:5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.
1Co 11:6 For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.
1Co 11:7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.
1Co 11:8 For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.
1Co 11:9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.
1Co 11:10 For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels.

Don't let the angels see a woman's hair...I wonder why??

 

[Grailhunter]

Except they can and have. They aren't supposed to, but when angels rebel, they do things they shouldn't.

1Co 11:5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.
1Co 11:6 For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.
1Co 11:7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.
1Co 11:8 For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.
1Co 11:9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.
1Co 11:10 For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels.

Don't let the angels see a woman's hair...I wonder why??

Again the Bible does not say the sons of God were angels.
The term sons of God is used for good and significant characters of the Bible.
You are making up scriptures.....why not write your own Bible.
You have nothing!

 

[Truth7t7]

Thus what has bewitched you into DENYING THE WORD OF GOD??

Romans 8:14KJ 14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
Angels don't maintain human sperm, nor do they marry taking wives upon earth as the Sons of God did below

The Sons Of God were mortal human men that married mortal human women

Genesis 6:2KJV
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

Matthew 22:30KJV
30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

 

[Selah]

God’s Word is true.

Jude 1:6
And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

 

[Truth7t7]

God’s Word is true.

Jude 1:6
And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

The fallen angels are in "hell" not running around on earth having sex with human women

2 Peter 2:4KJV
4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

 

[CadyandZoe]

The fallen angels are in "hell" not running around on earth having sex with human women

2 Peter 2:4KJV
4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

To be fair, I think Selah and others hear Joel say that when the Angels came to earth to take wives from among human women, this is the moment when they "left their habitation" as Joel says.

 

[Grailhunter]

To be fair, I think Selah and others hear Joel say that when the Angels came to earth to take wives from among human women, this is the moment when they "left their habitation" as Joel says.

But first the storyline would have to say that the sons of God were angels and then the Bible would have to define this as wrong, whoever they were.
This line of thinking flawed....should we say that Christ is evil because God came down and impregnated a woman.....did not marry her....and she was betrothed to someone already? Is the Son of God an angel?

 

[Truth7t7]

To be fair, I think Selah and others hear Joel say that when the Angels came to earth to take wives from among human women, this is the moment when they "left their habitation" as Joel says.

A person can say whatever they want, the fallen angels were cast by "God" to "hell" and are bound there by "God" may the forum read it again and again

The fallen angels are in "hell" bound by "God" not running around on earth having sex with human women

2 Peter 2:4KJV
4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

 

[ewq1938]

Again the Bible does not say the sons of God were angels.

It does in context not to mention Jewish history. There is no doubt Sons of God in the OT is used for angels.

The term sons of God is used for good and significant characters of the Bible.
You are making up scriptures.....why not write your own Bible.
You have nothing!

lol. That applies to you not me. You are the one going against what has been known as fact for centuries.

 

[David in NJ]

You are assuming and adding words to the scriptures the sexuality was about sodom and Gomorrah it wasn’t mentioned in the people from Egypt or the fallen angels in Jude. The proof is the very next verse verse 8 which also has no mention of sexual sin.

The Jews from Egypt were judged because they worshiped the golden caff the the fallen angels was because they sided with Satan not God as shown in revelation chapter 12.

The ones in verse 8 followed dreams and rejected god’s authority no mention of sexual sin in verse 8.

Verse 8 starts with the words “in the same way” this proves that it’s not akk about sexual sin in Jude.

I am stating exactly what the scriptures you referenced says there is no assumptions from me I am quoting exactly what the scriptures say.

When the Jews worshipped the calf they did so with sexual orgies just as they learned in Egypt.
That was part of the worship - study about that.

v8 LIKEWISE = what is the COMMON

v8 refers back to the men of v4 and states exactly what the fallen angels did = "reject authority/left their proper domain"

v8 LIKEWISE = the angels rejected God's Authority by leaving their proper domain = Sin has a Beginning and then it runs it's course.
a.) reject God's Authority
b.) go where you are not permitted
c.) fulfill the desires of the flesh

Also v8-v11 ADDS MORE examples of what these men(then and today) are currently 'bringing to the table'

*** Important Note *** - verses 8 & 9 returns back to speaking of angels

speak evil of dignitaries. 9Yet Michael the archangel, in contending with the devil, when he disputed about the body of Moses, dared not bring against him a reviling accusation, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!”

Marty do not make this mistake as some on here are doing = v10 But these speak evil of whatever they do not know;