Nightmare scenario

[quietthinker]

Save others with fear , pulling them out of the fire , hating even the garment spotted by the flesh ..
Knowing the TERROR OF GOD , we persuade men . ITS TIME the church beholds BOTH the GOODNESS and SEVERITY OF GOD .

Is it God who is terror or is it men who have TERROR OF GOD? Placing the emphasis correctly shifts how we see.
It was by placing the emphasis incorrectly that Satan attempts to cast God in a poor light. Jesus' reality corrected that incorrect emphasis.
The question is, are we willing to see the difference or do we prefer to believe Satans misrepresentations? (lies)

 

[amigo de christo]

Is it God who is terror or is it men who have TERROR OF GOD? Placing the emphasis correctly shifts how we see.
It was by placing the emphasis incorrectly that Satan attempts to cast God in a poor light. Jesus' reality corrected that incorrect emphasis.
The question is, are we willing to see the difference or do we prefer to believe Satans misrepresentations? (lies)

That is a warning from paul . About the righteous judgement of GOD . Even the wrath of GOD is RIGHTEOUS .
ALL His judgments are righteous good and holy . Now as for this reminder
paul was simply putting emphasis on why WE PREACH THE GOSPEL . Cause all who are in CHRIST will not go under the wrath of GOD .
KNOWING the TERROR , the WRATH OF GOD , we persaude men , TO COME TO CHRIST .
That could have been said just like that . SEE paul didnt try and change GOD into this love god
that somehow wont adminstir wrath to the ungodly . ITS COMING . THE THING is , IF ONE HAS JESUS
they wont be going under His wrath .
WE MUST behold both the goodness and severity of GOD . If not we create an incorrect image of GOD .
SO lets sum it up shall we .
The wrath of judgment of GOD is real and its coming for all who denied Christ . For buddists , mulisms
atheists , those who even lipped his name yet lived in sin . BUT THERE IS A WAY OUT OF IT
its called BELIEVE YE IN JESUS CHRIST . The lake of fire is real as well .
BUT again the way out of it , IS FOUND ONLY , and i do mean only , IN JESUS CHRIST .
Every act of GOD is RIGHTEOUS . This includes HIS WRATH . BUT PRAISE BE TO GOD
for HIS MERCY IN JESUS CHRIST that all who do BELEIVE shall rejoice forever with the KING and not go under wrath .

 

[quietthinker]

That is a warning from paul . About the righteous judgement of GOD . Even the wrath of GOD is RIGHTEOUS .
ALL His judgments are righteous good and holy . Now as for this reminder
paul was simply putting emphasis on why WE PREACH THE GOSPEL . Cause all who are in CHRIST will not go under the wrath of GOD .
KNOWING the TERROR , the WRATH OF GOD , we persaude men , TO COME TO CHRIST .
That could have been said just like that . SEE paul didnt try and change GOD into this love god
that somehow wont adminstir wrath to the ungodly . ITS COMING . THE THING is , IF ONE HAS JESUS
they wont be going under His wrath .
WE MUST behold both the goodness and severity of GOD . If not we create an incorrect image of GOD .
SO lets sum it up shall we .
The wrath of judgment of GOD is real and its coming for all who denied Christ . For buddists , mulisms
atheists , those who even lipped his name yet lived in sin . BUT THERE IS A WAY OUT OF IT
its called BELIEVE YE IN JESUS CHRIST . The lake of fire is real as well .
BUT again the way out of it , IS FOUND ONLY , and i do mean only , IN JESUS CHRIST .
Every act of GOD is RIGHTEOUS . This includes HIS WRATH . BUT PRAISE BE TO GOD
for HIS MERCY IN JESUS CHRIST that all who do BELEIVE shall rejoice forever with the KING and not go under wrath .

I think you are putting words in Paul's mouth to suit your theology amigo.
There's a huge difference between the consequence of rebellion and arbitrary punishment.

Romans 1 is clear re this. The wrath of God mentioned in vs 17-18 is qualified in vs 24-26. It tells us re wicked men 'he gave them up or 'gave them over'...ie, God's wrath is described as God being forced away by wicked men. In other words, the protection of God is not wanted and so he leaves them to the consequences of their choices....subsequently the words 'gave them up or gave them over' is used three times...vs 24, 26 & 28....which incidentally is not a coincidence (3)

Love does not gain our affections by threat. Imagine if you had a girlfriend and you said to her, marry me or I'll blow your brains out. She might marry you but will surely not love you.

We are to have relationship with our God with affection.....he draws us with love not threat. His drawing is intent on reciprocating and building affection. This is why Jesus came....to show us the Father (his character) so that we fall in love with him......but if we choose to disregard his drawing, if we choose to reject his ways he 'gives us over' ie, he leaves us to the consequences of our choices.

God is not into coercion. Our responses to him are to be free.....either to love him or hate him.

....and finally; because 'justice' to us fallen creatures is synonymous with 'pay back' we think in those parameters. We superimpose our understanding of justice onto God and make it appear that God is out for revenge. That's the exact picture of God that Satan wants us to have.....ie, a God who swats you like you would a mosquito if you step out of line, and it is no wonder that so few believers approach the throne of Grace with confidence in God's affection for us. Their whole focus is their performance to the point of eclipsing the free gift.

Be assured, motivation and power to live without sin does not come by focusing on your performance!

 

[Dropship]

..God’s righteous servants will soon gather and settle into New Israel..

Where is it?

 

[amigo de christo]

I think you are putting words in Paul's mouth to suit your theology amigo.
There's a huge difference between the consequence of rebellion and arbitrary punishment.

Romans 1 is clear re this. The wrath of God mentioned in vs 17-18 is qualified in vs 24-26. It tells us re wicked men 'he gave them up or 'gave them over'...ie, God's wrath is described as God being forced away by wicked men. In other words, the protection of God is not wanted and so he leaves them to the consequences of their choices....subsequently the words 'gave them up or gave them over' is used three times...vs 24, 26 & 28....which incidentally is not a coincidence (3)

Love does not gain our affections by threat. Imagine if you had a girlfriend and you said to her, marry me or I'll blow your brains out. She might marry you but will surely not love you.

We are to have relationship with our God with affection.....he draws us with love not threat. His drawing is intent on reciprocating and building affection. This is why Jesus came....to show us the Father (his character) so that we fall in love with him......but if we choose to disregard his drawing, if we choose to reject his ways he 'gives us over' ie, he leaves us to the consequences of our choices.

God is not into coercion. Our responses to him are to be free.....either to love him or hate him.

....and finally; because 'justice' to us fallen creatures is synonymous with 'pay back' we think in those parameters. We superimpose our understanding of justice onto God and make it appear that God is out for revenge. That's the exact picture of God that Satan wants us to have.....ie, a God who swats you like you would a mosquito if you step out of line, and it is no wonder that so few believers approach the throne of Grace with confidence in God's affection for us. Their whole focus is their performance to the point of eclipsing the free gift.

Be assured, motivation and power to live without sin does not come by focusing on your performance!

And it sounds a lot like this generation too .
They did not want any reminder o GOD , thus he gave them over to a reprobate mind to do such things
including men with men and women with women . Even worse is the fact that lots of churches are fast
accepting this and calling it love . Talk about a delusion .
A love invented by men and the dragon who fed mankind such a love has fast crept into the churches .
Yet its a love that embraces sin , embraces all paths to GOD as valid . ITS A LIE and it aint love and it aint from GOD either .
WE are witnessing a romans one level reprobation upon the world and her religions as well as even christendom itself .
My advice is , DONT BUY THE LIE . LEARN THE TRUE JESUS OF THE BIBLE , LEARN THE GOD of THE BIBLE
LEARN the apostels letters well . FOR MANY decievers abound amongst us and they aint slowing down with their lies of deceptoin .
Satan knew what he was doing . Use the word love but use a version of love that is neither LOVE , but rather
contradicts the love of GOD and GOD HIMSELF . ONLY SATAN would do that . ONLY The DRAGON would do such a thing
and he allures through the lusts of the flesh . SO again , DONT BUY THE LIE . Simply learn thy bible well .

 

[quietthinker]

And it sounds a lot like this generation too .
They did not want any reminder o GOD , thus he gave them over to a reprobate mind to do such things
including men with men and women with women . Even worse is the fact that lots of churches are fast
accepting this and calling it love . Talk about a delusion .
A love invented by men and the dragon who fed mankind such a love has fast crept into the churches .
Yet its a love that embraces sin , embraces all paths to GOD as valid . ITS A LIE and it aint love and it aint from GOD either .
WE are witnessing a romans one level reprobation upon the world and her religions as well as even christendom itself .
My advice is , DONT BUY THE LIE . LEARN THE TRUE JESUS OF THE BIBLE , LEARN THE GOD of THE BIBLE
LEARN the apostels letters well . FOR MANY decievers abound amongst us and they aint slowing down with their lies of deceptoin .
Satan knew what he was doing . Use the word love but use a version of love that is neither LOVE , but rather
contradicts the love of GOD and GOD HIMSELF . ONLY SATAN would do that . ONLY The DRAGON would do such a thing
and he allures through the lusts of the flesh . SO again , DONT BUY THE LIE . Simply learn thy bible well .

I don't think you heard (understood) what I said amigo!

 

[amigo de christo]

I don't think you heard (understood) what I said amigo!

But did you understand what i just said . Lets start with that and see where this leads .

 

[quietthinker]

But did you understand what i just said . Lets start with that and see where this leads .

you're telling me what others should be doing

 

[Keraz]

Where is it?

All of the holy Land, from the Nile to the Euphrates.
The area given to Abraham and his descendants, so long ago and which has never yet been inhabited only by a people who believe in and obey God.

Soon to happen will be the great reset of our civilization, the terrible Sixth Seal Day of the Lord's fiery wrath, which will change the world and allow Prophesies like Isaiah 35:1-10, Isiah 62:1-5, Ezekiel 34:11-16, Romane 9:24-26, +, to take place.
Great will be that time! Amos 9:13-15

 

[quietthinker]

All of the holy Land, from the Nile to the Euphrates.
The area given to Abraham and his descendants, so long ago and which has never yet been inhabited only by a people who believe in and obey God.

Soon to happen will be the great reset of our civilization, the terrible Sixth Seal Day of the Lord's fiery wrath, which will change the world and allow Prophesies like Isaiah 35:1-10, Isiah 62:1-5, Ezekiel 34:11-16, Romane 9:24-26, +, to take place.
Great will be that time! Amos 9:13-15

Your view is far far too limited Keraz. You interpret the scriptures as if Jesus was a side show in the cosmic drama played out here on Earth.

Consider the vision Daniel interpreted for Nebuchadnezzar in Daniel 2:31-45. The great image of the metal man....particularly the stone which struck the image on its feet. It became a mountain filling the whole earth. Daniel 2:35, Daniel 2:45

God's Kingdom, the one which Jesus bent his stories and parables around is to fill the whole earth.....not just a thin slice of geography in the Middle East. It will not be left to other people (Daniel 2:44) because in that day, there will be no other people left.
.....and also Matthew 5:5....'blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth' ..Jesus, not just the smallest pizza slice of it.

 

[Keraz]

.'blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth'

That will happen after the Millennium
Did you not bother to look up the scriptures I gave in #29? They are specific to the holy Land.
Daniel 2:44 applies after Jesus Returns.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Be assured, motivation and power to live without sin does not come by focusing on your performance!

Quote of the day right here!

 

[quietthinker]

That will happen after the Millennium
Did you not bother to look up the scriptures I gave in #29? They are specific to the holy Land.
Daniel 2:44 applies after Jesus Returns.

The middle east territory of ancient Israel has no special status as 'the holy land'. It is anything but holy and frankly has never been.
According to Revelation 20, the Millenium is a period where the earth is desolate where its only inhabitants are satan and his angels. He is bound by circumstances....there are no humans to deceive.....all the wicked are dead.....killed by the brightness of Jesus return. Those joining Jesus in the clouds at his return will spend that period in heaven with Jesus.
Thereafter the wicked are resurrected and Satan again has subjects to deceive....and so he is 'released from his prison'

Anyway, the story goes on, but as mentioned in my previous post I see you make Jesus a side show to the prophetic narrative and interpret the Old Testament without the lens of the New Testament witness.

 

[quietthinker]

further.... interpreting prophecy like one who reads a crystal ball or tarot cards about the future not only misses the point but creates a false God under the guise of it being a sanctioned practice.

As Paul says in Corinthians 13, one can know all the prophecies and be as sounding brass and tinkling cymbals if one has no connection (love).

The whole purpose of scripture is to know its author. 'To know' in Hebrew is 'yada'. It means to experience intimately. It is not referring to a cognitive exercise as it is understood in the English.
The scripture will say, 'and Adam knew his wife Eve' and in the book of Revelation it states, 'he who overcomes I will grant to sit on my throne'. Sitting on his throne is none other than knowing Jesus.

He is the central figure and purpose of the whole scripture.

righty!.....my blurb is done!

 

[bbyrd009]

word

Where is it?

where i am :)

 

[bbyrd009]

The wrath of judgment of GOD is real and its coming for all who denied Christ . For buddists , mulisms
atheists , those who even lipped his name yet lived in sin

but Christ is spirit, yes? And you dont know that any of those ppl have denied Christ as such…do you?

it seems that you (and the op) sit in judgement of ppl you are not even interacting with, by way of, what, reinforcing your belief system? Doesnt strike me as the best recruiting method, wadr

 

[amigo de christo]

but Christ is spirit, yes? And you dont know that any of those ppl have denied Christ as such…do you?

it seems that you (and the op) sit in judgement of ppl you are not even interacting with, by way of, what, reinforcing your belief system? Doesnt strike me as the best recruiting method, wadr

Ye shall know them by their fruits .
Paul said it too . If any denies the things JESUS taught us they do deny the FAITH .
IF any provides not for his own and specially those of his own household , HE has DENIED THE FAITH and is worse than an infidel .
Hey birdy , ITS TIME to learn our bibles and stop listening to SOLD OUT pastors who no longer correct and do all to justify
their own actions . THEY gonna twist everthing now . ITS real easy to SEE Who DENIES CHRIST .
YE shall know them by their fruits .

 

[amigo de christo]

but Christ is spirit, yes? And you dont know that any of those ppl have denied Christ as such…do you?

it seems that you (and the op) sit in judgement of ppl you are not even interacting with, by way of, what, reinforcing your belief system? Doesnt strike me as the best recruiting method, wadr

And PS , TRY reading the bible . try reading it for yourself . IF one does not believe the testimony that GOD gave of CHRIST
THEN , THEY MAKE GOD A LIAR . THEY DENY GOD HIMSELF , IF THEY DENY JESUS CHRIST As the ONLY NAME whereby one may be saved .
TRY reading the bible for a change . IT WILL HELP GREATLY IF YA DID SO .

 

[Keraz]

The middle east territory of ancient Israel has no special status as 'the holy land'

You are in disagreement with God. Deuteronomy 11:11-12, Isaiah 49:14-21
The holy Land was given to Abraham and his descendants by faith for their inheritance. Psalms 69:32-36, Isaiah 65:9

Daniel 7:25 and Revelation 13:5-8, make it clear that the holy people of God will be living there when the Anti-Christ takes world control.

The unsupported opinion of QT, against the 6 scriptures by Keraz.

 

[quietthinker]

Quote of the day right here!

heyyy!....and it's for me to hear!