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Poll: Tattoo artist: if a Christian daughter/son of yours worked as one, would you be supportive?
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Hi @Marilyn C
So were you at all surprised when you first heard the news that your niece had become a tattoo artist?
It seems to have become regarded as a rather womanly thing now, both to receive (Rita - below - testified it made her feel good) and to give tattoos.
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Rita said
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Some amusing : ) . Farouk Jewellery has always been a integral part of a ladies being and not only for me. The tattoo be some different depending on the era. I see many girl and much expressions of artistic fashion in your pics. You be a admirer of the human bodily physic? You perhaps be a admirer of the many expressive artistic art forms that are given us through the world of art and photography.@Prim
Seems like earrings of various varieties have definitely become integral to your developed sense of personal style; so as regards those tiny stud versus the long ones shown in the previous post, I guess you would also have come round to a definite sense of preference.
Sometimes earrings and tattoos can become complementary to each other:
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@Not me I think clearly that this is the sort of thing that is covered by Romans 14: "Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind".
Some earnest believers will be tattooed (maybe a Bible ref., etc.); others - earnest in their beliefs and preferences - will not.
As Rita said:
Hi @Prim.
Earrings can for some ppl be like putting on their faces is; my wife doesn't feel dressed if she goes out without putting on her face.
Others don't feel dressed if they go out without their earrings in.
Some young men are so accustomed to earrings also; having been motivated to have their earlobes studded in their youth, they simply keep the studs in basically all the time.
Often it's a case of what ppl are personally accustomed to.
In Ezekiel 16.12 the Lord uses an earring analogy to illustrate imputed righteousness.
For tattoos, of course one needs to be rather sure about the preferred design from the start. But it's very widespread in North America among ppl in churches; I don't know about Singapore.
Farouk I guess for some their motto be. If it feels so good how could it be so wrong and not right. For some the fine line between pleasure & pain be no fine line at all.
@Prim Interesting that you should focus on the pain aspect. (You saw Rita's post, of course.)
As regards the pain, I read this from a medical doctor:
This is what Dr. Beth S., MD, said: "Embracing the pain For many tattoo enthusiasts, the pain is an important part of the process. Controlling the pain is less important than feeling it, accepting it, and embracing the endorphin rush that pain brings.
If it's your first tattoo, the pain can be a rite of passage. Some people see it as a fair price to pay to wear permanent, beautiful, meaningful art. Some even enjoy it as an important part of the tattooing.." From 'Controlling the pain with tattooing', https://tattoos.lovetoknow.com/Controlling_the_Pain
It's very widespread among ppl in churches in North America, especially in some areas, and the idea is I guess after a bit of pain one has something wholesome that can permanently function as an effective witness tool.
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QueenCat said:
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In other words, the pain is not something that puts ppl off it.
But I guess from your comment you would regard the 'fine line' as something that would put you off.
@atpollard Thanks for your poll vote participation recently.
What I wanted to add was that people's perceptions develop.
Years ago, tattoos were associated with sailors and bikers (i.e., they had a strongly male - and rough - image. Even though in the 19th century it was regarded as a classy thing for women to acquire.)
Now it would not be unusual for tattooed homeschooling mothers to accompany their daughters at age 18 getting a Bible verse tattoo. It's something that conservative Christians do very widely; and of course it's hugely perceived as something womanly; i.e., not rough, but gently worth a bit of pain for something wholesome.
Farouk a interesting perspective and outlook by Dr Beth and others. But there be many perspectives. Tattooing was once seen and is still seen today as a initiation of acceptance into ones tribe. Known well enough throughout the pagan world. But never accepted as a Christian practice. At least from the view point of our church history along with all commentary’s up until the late 20th century. Leviticus 19:28 was always interpreted as such ( Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you. I am the Lord. It was always seen as part of the moral law by the church, that is of course until recent times. As to Romans 14 yes we have Christian liberty. But even Christian Liberty has its limits.@Prim Interesting that you should focus on the pain aspect. (You saw Rita's post, of course.)
As regards the pain, I read this from a medical doctor:
This is what Dr. Beth S., MD, said: "Embracing the pain For many tattoo enthusiasts, the pain is an important part of the process. Controlling the pain is less important than feeling it, accepting it, and embracing the endorphin rush that pain brings.
If it's your first tattoo, the pain can be a rite of passage. Some people see it as a fair price to pay to wear permanent, beautiful, meaningful art. Some even enjoy it as an important part of the tattooing.." From 'Controlling the pain with tattooing', https://tattoos.lovetoknow.com/Controlling_the_Pain
It's very widespread among ppl in churches in North America, especially in some areas, and the idea is I guess after a bit of pain one has something wholesome that can permanently function as an effective witness tool.
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QueenCat said:
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In other words, the pain is not something that puts ppl off it.
But I guess from your comment you would regard the 'fine line' as something that would put you off.
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@Prim
Well, some Christians do seem to feel that a bit of pain for something permanent is really worthwhile.
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I guess it's a bit like all the ppl who have pierced ears thinking that a bit of pain is worth it for the result. After all, huge numbers of parents are willing to give their adolescent daughters - and sons, too, if they want it - the gift of pierced ears.
pinterestIt's widely thought to be perfectly appropriate to have a pit of pain for something worthwhile, anyway.
@devin553344 I mostly wouldn't see the point of trying to make Christians regret their tattoos: they might even represent some worthwhile memory or principle, right?
@Ronald Nolette
Thanks for your recent participation.
I think it frankly needs to be remembered also that today it's not unusually from conservative, traditionally minded people that the strong demand for tattoo services comes. It would be hard to maintain that overwhelming demand for tattoo services comes from freaks. I guess these examples seem compelling to demonstrate this:
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Quite the opposite of freaks, in fact: the clients described in these quotes, above, might even be regarded as mainly conservative, mainstream and or otherwise fairly traditionally minded ppl. It would I guess follow logically that by these quite traditionally minded clients the profession of tattoo artist would be positively regarded.
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Hi @Marilyn C Actually a lot of Christians do find that faith based tattoos - such as a Bible verse - make effective witness tools in conversation with ppl.
All the young ppl with Bible verses tattooed with whom I have spoken seem to have received them as witness tools, anyway.
It would follow that such Christians would likely regard your niece's profession in a basically positive way (seeing as they themselves would have had a positive experience from a tattoo artist.)
@The Learner Thanks for your many 'likes' on this thread; you can see why I thought it would evoke a lot of comment; feel free to comment further.
@Marilyn C PS: Did I tell you about the young lady that my wife and I met? she had the whole of John 3.16 tattooed on her wrist area; it was her favorite Bible verse and mine also; and as far as we were concerned it brought about our conversation and presumably many others also; and so she likely would have felt amply justified in using a tattoo artist for that purpose (indeed, having met her, I can well imagine her having gone with joy in her heart to the tattoo parlor).
It's also in line with what a lot of posters on this forum have said.
It's also in line with what a lot of posters on this forum have said.
@Dropship So did you get some good answers to your question?
Contrary to what one poster claimed...
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...it has actually been strongly established as a highly womanly thing to do; FYI:
James McCarthy, Mirror dot co dot uk
Heavenhome said:
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So without doubt it's become regarded as a highly womanly thing to do, and the Christian women that have it done often get faith based ones.