Electing New Pope

[BreadOfLife]

BOL, I was hoping you would reply, but I am disappointed by your reply, although it's not surprising.

I was hoping you would answer the questions in the OP. Despite the snarkyness, the are reasonable questions, and ones I think even I (being not Catholic) could answer. However, you are much more qualified.

So what makes a Cardinal incorruptible?

That was the first question, and there were many others. Why not guide them through the process and tell them how it's done?

WHO says that a Cardibnal is automatically "inforruptible"?

 

[BreadOfLife]

I can show you where the Bible does NOT teach "Cardinals or Popes"..... from cover to cover in the Bible.
There is a 5 fold ministry that runs the leadership of the 1st century church.
Cardinals and Popes run the last century great whore of Revelation.

So - you COULDN'T answer ANY of my questions again.
That's pretty much what I expected.

Not only did I have to teach you that "Bible" isn't in the Bible - but that YOU depend on a Catholi Tradition as your "Sole Authority".
Nice job, Einstein . . .

 

[BeyondET]

The smoke from the chimney is humorous

 

[Truther]

So - you COULDN'T answer ANY of my questions again.
That's pretty much what I expected.

Not only did I have to teach you that "Bible" isn't in the Bible - but that YOU depend on a Catholi Tradition as your "Sole Authority".
Nice job, Einstein . . .

I am just hung up on how you can find a cardinal or pope in history and no record of either office in the Bible. You have us all stumped.
Are they like the president and vice president of the unscriptural Roman catholic church?

 

[Brakelite]

Are you SDA?

Totally.

 

[Brakelite]

Not only did I have to teach you that "Bible" isn't in the Bible - but that YOU depend on a Catholi Tradition as your "Sole Authority".
Nice job, Einstein . . .

Scripture didn't come from catholicism. It came from the apostles and prophets, inspired by the holy Spirit. Then handed down with meticulous care by devout followers of Jesus who had original copies as they escaped Jerusalem to Antioch, Pella, Damascus and the cities beyond. As they went they were empowered by the holy Spirit, they taught the gospel, and churches popped up throughout the world... From China to Britain, from Germany to Africa. And even Rome. What gave Rome precedence over the other churches that grew all around them? Nothing more than the false lying word of a worldly emperor and a counterfeit fraudulent document purported to be written by Constantine.

 

[BeyondET]

Really?
Can you show me where the Bible teaches this, Sola Scripturist?
Chapter and Verse please . . .

The word, “Cardinal” isn’t in Scripture – but neither is the word, “Bible”. Why do YOU call it a “Bible”?
For that matter – why do YOU adhere to the Canon of the New Testament, as it was compiled and declared by the Catholic Church in the 4th century?

I’ll wait right here for your well-researched answers to these questions . . .

Your right and wrong on the compiling of the 27 books. Catholics was the first to place them in one book, but they certainly wasn't the last all bibles do not come from the catholic compilations.

Bible means "the books"

 

[Truther]

Totally.

Just curious.

Do you believe Jesus is Michael the archangel?

 

[Nancy]

Just curious.

Do you believe Jesus is Michael the archangel?

Jehovah Witnesses believe that, not SDA's

 

[Truther]

Jehovah Witnesses believe that, not SDA's

I was given a tract by an SDA member in the early 90's stating that Jesus is Michael.

 

[Brakelite]

Jehovah Witnesses believe that, not SDA's

Actually, Sun Dried Australians believe that as well. And with good reason. But you nor anyone else has to.

 

[Truther]

The Clear Word Bible, Jesus, and Michael the Archangel

....The Seventh-day Adventists teach that Michael the Archangel and Jesus are one and the same.

 

[Truther]

Actually, Sun Dried Australians believe that as well. And with good reason. But you nor anyone else has to.

Can they use sunscreen?;)

 

[BreadOfLife]

I am just hung up on how you can find a cardinal or pope in history and no record of either office in the Bible. You have us all stumped.
Are they like the president and vice president of the unscriptural Roman catholic church?

Another epic fail, Einstein . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Your right and wrong on the compiling of the 27 books. Catholics was the first to place them in one book, but they certainly wasn't the last all bibles do not come from the catholic compilations.

Bible means "the books"

That’s why I specified “New Testament” Canon..
EVERY Christian Bible got the NT Canon from the Catholic Church. Therefore – ALL Protestants adhere to CATHOLIC TRADITION.

Do you know where your OT Canon came from?

 

[BreadOfLife]

Scripture didn't come from catholicism. It came from the apostles and prophets, inspired by the holy Spirit. Then handed down with meticulous care by devout followers of Jesus who had original copies as they escaped Jerusalem to Antioch, Pella, Damascus and the cities beyond. As they went they were empowered by the holy Spirit, they taught the gospel, and churches popped up throughout the world... From China to Britain, from Germany to Africa. And even Rome.

The NT came out of the Catholic Church – the Apostles and their disciples – guided by the Holy Spirit (John 16:12-15).
[QUOTE="Brakelite, post: 1373242, member: 8521"What gave Rome precedence over the other churches that grew all around them? Nothing more than the false lying word of a worldly emperor and a counterfeit fraudulent document purported to be written by Constantine.[/QUOTE]
WRONG.

You guys sing the SAME tired, revisionist song in post after post - thread after thread. The REALITY is that the Church in Rome was considered the PRIMARY See centuries BEFORE Constantine:

Ignatius of Antioch
You [the See of Rome] have envied no one, but others have you taught. I desire only that what you have enjoined in your instructions may remain in force (Epistle to the Romans 3:1 [A.D. 110]).

Irenaeus
But since it would be too long to enumerate in such a volume as this the succession of all the churches, we shall confound all those who, in whatever manner, whether through self-satisfaction or vainglory, or through blindness and wicked opinion, assemble other than where it is proper, by pointing out here the successions of the bishops of the greatest and most ancient church known to all, founded and organized at Rome by the two most glorious apostles. Peter and Paul, that church which has the tradition and the faith which comes down to us after having been announced to men by the apostles. WITH THAT CHURCH, BECAUSE OF ITS SUPERIOR ORIGIN, ALL THE CHURCHES MUST AGREE, THAT IS, ALL THE FAITHFUL IN THE WHOLE WORLD, and it is in her that the faithful everywhere have maintained the apostolic tradition (Against Heresies 3:3:2 [inter A.D. 180-190]).

Tertullian
[T]he Lord said to Peter, "On this rock I will build my Church, I have given you the keys of the kingdom of heaven [and] whatever you shall have bound or loosed on earth will be bound or loosed in heaven" [Matt. 16:18-19]. ... Upon you, he says, I will build my Church; and I will give to you the keys, not to the Church; and whatever you shall have bound or you shall have loosed, not what they shall have bound or they shall have loosed (Modesty 21:9-10 [A.D. 220]).

Cyprian
With a false bishop appointed for themselves by heretics, they dare even to set sail and carry letters from schismatics and blasphemers to the Chair of Peter and to the principal church [at Rome], in which sacerdotal unity has its source" (Epistle to Cornelius [Bishop of Rome] 59:14 [A.D. 252]).
The Lord says to Peter: "I say to you," he says, "that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church" . . . On him he builds the Church, and to him he gives the command to feed the sheep John 21:17], and although he assigns a like power to all the apostles, yet he founded a single chair [cathedra], and he established by his own authority a source and an intrinsic reason for that unity. Indeed, the others were that also which Peter was [i.e., apostles], BUT A PRIMACY IS GIVEN TO PETER, WHEREBY IT IS MADE CLEAR THAT THERE IS BUT ONE CHURCH AND ONE CHAIR. So too, all [the apostles] are shepherds, and the flock is shown to be one, fed by all the apostles in single-minded accord. If someone does not hold fast to this unity of Peter, can he imagine that he still holds the faith? If he [should] desert the chair of Peter upon whom the Church was built, can he still be confident that he is in the Church? (The Unity of the Catholic Church 4 [A.D. 251]).

 

[JohnPaul]

The next Pope should be Black as there has never been a Black Pope in the history of the Papacy.

 

[marks]

Man making himself equal to God?

Don't they call their pope "the vicar of Christ", that is, "acting for the person of Christ", or, "acting personally instead of Christ"? What was the Greek word for "instead of Christ"?

Much love!

 

[marks]

Those in authority over the people teach to pray to mary and dead saints, which is the general term for "necromancy" referring to any and all divination practices that involve the spirits of people who have passed on.

Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
[23] And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.

So it seems to me!

Much love!

 

[BreadOfLife]

The next Pope should be Black as there has never been a Black Pope in the history of the Papacy.

God doesn't virtue signal or play identity politics . . .