Run AWAY from Calvinism!

[reformed1689]

If you have to do it without mercy and love, you have nothing but worthless air.

Wow you make a lot of assumptions here, you seem to do that a lot with people, I merely put Scripture in context and you jump to "without mercy and love" who do you think you are?

 

[Johann]

Exactly as you just did. The context is not talking about all and every individual, it is talking about the beloved, the elect. Read the verse. That being said it cannot be talking about all individuals because we know there are some vessels of wrath prepared for destruction. God has no intention of saving everyone.

You better be careful how you handle God's word, we are mere stewards of His holy writ, Genitive of Possession..the way you read it and the way I read it might not be the same.
After the Resurrection of Christ Jesus a lot of things changed my brother and we need to correctly cutting straight the D'var of our blessed Lord and great God Jesus our Messiah.
Even Peter warned that Paul's writings are hard to understand and some are perverting it.
The fact that you and I are here on this forum is indicative that we have been called and elected and all the others.
It is not up to us to say who are elected and who are not.
Jesus left the 99 and were looking for the "one"
To be honest with you, I tremble when I use God's word, knowing we are going to give an account of everything we have done, in word, thought and deed.
J.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Wow you make a lot of assumptions here, you seem to do that a lot with people, I merely put Scripture in context and you jump to "without mercy and love" who do you think you are?

I am one the Lord has shown mercy, care and love. You are a clanging cymbal.

 

[reformed1689]

You have quite a few schisms where you say one thing and then say the complete opposite of it.

Oh really?

 

[Lambano]

If you have to do it with falsehoods then it is worthless.

I have the good news of Jesus Christ for him.

If you have a gospel, let's hear it.

 

[reformed1689]

The fact that you and I are here on this forum is indicative that we have been called and elected and all the others.

Do you honestly believe everyone on this board is saved? I don't. There are rank heretics on this forum.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

I have the good news of Jesus Christ for him.

If you have a gospel, let's hear it.

Oh please, let’s not hear again how God is willing that some men perish. That’s his gospel.

 

[reformed1689]

My sheep know My voice. They will run from another.

What is your point here?

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Do you honestly believe everyone on this board is saved? I don't. There are rank heretics on this forum.

That is very evident!

 

[reformed1689]

Oh please, let’s not hear again how God is willing that some men perish. That’s his gospel.

That's what Paul wrote. What do you do with Pharaoh? Or what do you do with Judas? Jesus said it was to fulfill the Scriptures that he would be lost. So you really need to do some rethinking on your theology.

 

[Johann]

Do you honestly believe everyone on this board is saved? I don't. There are rank heretics on this forum.

Not for us to judge my brother..we must work out our OWN salvation with fear and trembling.
J.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

What is your point here?

My point is that His sheep know His voice and can discern when they hear it and when they do not hear it.

 

[reformed1689]

I have the good news of Jesus Christ for him.

If you have a gospel, let's hear it.

The good news is that Christ came to die and save those who would believe in Him. That is the good news.

 

[reformed1689]

I am one the Lord has shown mercy, care and love. You are a clanging cymbal.

You must hate Paul too.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

That's what Paul wrote. What do you do with Pharaoh? Or what do you do with Judas? Jesus said it was to fulfill the Scriptures that he would be lost. So you really need to do some rethinking on your theology.

And you need to rethink what you have allowed men to do to you.

 

[Johann]

I am one the Lord has shown mercy, care and love. You are a clanging cymbal.

Careful girl.
J.

 

[reformed1689]

And you need to rethink what you have allowed men to do to you.

If by men you mean Jesus, Paul, John, James, Matthew, Mark, and Luke, no, I don't need to rethink that. You are ignoring LARGE swaths of Scripture and focusing on one phrase out of the context of a passage to prop up your theology.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

You must hate Paul too.

No, I adore Paul. I do hate what unstable men do to his words.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

If by men you mean Jesus, Paul, John, James, Matthew, Mark, and Luke, no, I don't need to rethink that. You are ignoring LARGE swaths of Scripture and focusing on one phrase out of the context of a passage to prop up your theology.

What theology?

 

[reformed1689]

What theology?

The idea that God wants to save every individual person.