"If you love me, you will keep my commandments."

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BloodBought 1953

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I keep all 10 via the power of the Holy Spirit


Good for you, Mr.Holy Spirit , Jr.———Is that how you got saved or stay Saved? YOUR Performance vs. Christ’s Performance? Because I trust Jesus Plus Nothing for my Salvation, I am “ IMPUTED” with His Perfection......Your Pride and your self- Righteousness would exclude you from the crowd that I am a part of....My sins are Covered by the Grace of God that you foolishly reject.....

You are the perfect example of those blind guides that will be telling Jesus , “Hey! Look at all the good stuff that * I* did! My performance of Commandment Keeping was stellar ! Now .....give me what I deserve!” Jesus will give you exactly what you deserve—— Hell.You will be hearing, “ Depart from me, I never knew you...”

Perhaps as the Angels drag you to Hell, you will catch a glimpse of the Heavenly Mercy Seat That is up there...the Holiest and most precious thing in this universe —- The Blood Of Christ that you mock— is sprinkled on top of that Mercy Seat....take a good, hard look at it.....everybody that was ever saved is saved because of that Shed Blood that stands for God’s Mercy and Love.....you’re going to find out that as far as Salvation was concerned, your pitiful attempts at perfection by “ keeping the Law” ( a thing that Peter said was impossible) was Something God did not give a “rat’s patootie” about......you barked up the wrong tree—— You wasted your time ....you did not Trust Jesus , Who was “The *END* of the Law for anybody’s Salvation”.......You are going to find out the Hard Way that “ By The Law , NO FLESH WILL BE JUSTIFIED”.......
Please take note,Newbies—— when it comes to Salvation, just remember that the Song had it Right all along.....it really IS , “ Nothing But The Blood”......Don't scorn and reject that Saving Blood as this Blind and confused man has done....God Bless....
 
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No, I won't repent of teaching God's Truth, ... ever.



You wouldn’t know “ The Truth “ if it came up and bit you on the ....Er...ah ....Behind!
 

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for me Paul’s urging them to do what is honest towards them reminds me of Christ saying if you love me, keep My commandments. Is an opportunity to keep the commandments of the Lord presenting itself in: Paul’s urging “do what is honest”. As Christ kept, By example Paul seems to be saying the same if you love the Lord, then “we wish” you keep His commands and do what is honest in His sight …going on to say “For we are glad, when we are weak, and you are strong: and this also we wish, even your perfection.” —For His strength is made perfect in weakness.

do you think the urging of “if you love Me keep My commandments”…has anything to do with towards His body? He said to Peter “Peter, if you love Me, strengthen your brothers.”
I think it's rather simple. I find when I sin, trouble enters my life. Therefore, I try no to sin.
 

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I keep all 10 via the power of the Holy Spirit


Good for you, Mr.Holy Spirit , Jr.———Is that how you got saved or stay Saved? YOUR Performance vs. Christ’s Performance? Because I trust Jesus Plus Nothing for my Salvation, I am “ IMPUTED” with His Perfection......Your Pride and your self- Righteousness would exclude you from the crowd that I am a part of....My sins are Covered by the Grace of God that you foolishly reject.....

You are the perfect example of those blind guides that will be telling Jesus , “Hey! Look at all the good stuff that * I* did! My performance of Commandment Keeping was stellar ! Now .....give me what I deserve!” Jesus will give you exactly what you deserve—— Hell.You will be hearing, “ Depart from me, I never knew you...”

Perhaps as the Angels drag you to Hell, you will catch a glimpse of the Heavenly Mercy Seat That is up there...the Holiest and most precious thing in this universe —- The Blood Of Christ that you mock— is sprinkled on top of that Mercy Seat....take a good, hard look at it.....everybody that was ever saved is saved because of that Shed Blood that stands for God’s Mercy and Love.....you’re going to find out that as far as Salvation was concerned, your pitiful attempts at perfection by “ keeping the Law” ( a thing that Peter said was impossible) was Something God did not give a “rat’s patootie” about......you barker up the wrong tree—— You wasted your time ....you did not Trust Jesus , Who was “The *END* of the Law for anybody’s Salvation”.......You are going to find out the Hard Way that “ By The Law , NO FLESH WILL BE JUSTIFIED”.......
Please take note,Newbies—— when it comes to Salvation, just remember that the Song had it Right all along.....it really IS , “ Nothing But The Blood”......Don't scorn and reject that Saving Blood as this Blind and confused man has done....God Bless....
Thank you for exposing yourself in such a dramatic way BB. Any guess work is now not necessary.
 

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keep all 10 via the power of the Holy Spirit

No way.
You do not keep the Sabbath Sir.

The Sabbath command was given to fleshly Israel only!
Exodus 30:13
Speak also to the children of Israel saying, Surely My Sabbaths you shall keep.....

Are you a Israelite?

Heres some reasons you do not keep the Sabbath,
Do you offer a burnt offering on the Sabbath, Numbers 28:9-10?
Do you not go out of your place, Exodus 16:29?
Keeping the Sabbath makes me a debtor to the whole law, Galatians 5:3-4
Do you burn incense
Offer animal sacrifices
Go to Jerusalem three times a year to worship.

You cannot keep the ten commandments.

Now answer my question,
Give a scriptural answer to where do you get the authority to keep some of the old law and not all of it?
 
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I think it's rather simple. I find when I sin, trouble enters my life. Therefore, I try no to sin.


We kinda “ get” that, Bob.....it’s Wisdom from God Himself....no doubt about it.....the question remains—— do you think that has ANYTHING to do with the GIFT of Salvation? We are not Saved by “ stopping” —— we are Saved by “ Trusting” ......do you understand that? Simply Believe the Gospel Of 1 Cor15:1-4 in order to be Saved....
 
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We are not Saved by “ stopping” —— we are Saved by “ Trusting”

“Stopping”
“Trusting” …what do you mean “trusting” though…do you mean to be laid back doing as we always have unto others and living however without any remorse? Or do you mean trusting God through His showing and teaching a better way even if it seems impossible and doesn’t make sense at the time?
 

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I always try not to break any of his commandments. When I fail, I repent.
Bob, when and how do you know you have sinned, or have broken a commandment, that really needs to be validated, and where you have failed as you put it? The reason why I ask this question is because as I read folks' responses about the subject of sinning and sin, I get a strong impression that many believers repent over sins or commandments that are not actually sins or commandments.

Thanks
 

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yes but what is sin? “whatsoever is not of faith is sin.” ?
Romans 14:23
What is sin? I think the Ten Commandments in the Old Testament and two great commandments in the New Testament define sin. The rest of the Bible helps define these commandments.
 

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We kinda “ get” that, Bob.....it’s Wisdom from God Himself....no doubt about it.....the question remains—— do you think that has ANYTHING to do with the GIFT of Salvation? We are not Saved by “ stopping” —— we are Saved by “ Trusting” ......do you understand that? Simply Believe the Gospel Of 1 Cor15:1-4 in order to be Saved....
No, it's my personal experience. When I sin, trouble enters my life.
 

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Bob, when and how do you know you have sinned, or have broken a commandment, that really needs to be validated, and where you have failed as you put it? The reason why I ask this question is because as I read folks' responses about the subject of sinning and sin, I get a strong impression that many believers repent over sins or commandments that are not actually sins or commandments.

Thanks
But this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the LORD: I will put my law within them, and I will write it upon their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Jeremiah 31:33 RSV
 

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Are you aware trying to keep the law of Moses makes you cursed?
Galatians 3:10
For as many as are of works of the law(OT LAW) are under the curse; for it is written, Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all things that are written in the book of the law, TO DO THEM.

Next verse says no one is justified by the old law ie Law of Moses,
Today the justified must LIVE BY FAITH. Galatians 3:10-11
 
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What is sin? I think the Ten Commandments in the Old Testament and two great commandments in the New Testament define sin. The rest of the Bible helps define these commandments.

Does all trouble come because of sin? For instance one thing that confuses me is some of the most gentle, caring, giving self-less people where you see His fruit…suffer the greatest trouble. Does that mean they sinned the greatest therefore having the greatest troubles come?
 

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But this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the LORD: I will put my law within them, and I will write it upon their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Jeremiah 31:33 RSV
hey hey Bob!...the deduction is; if one doesn't have the laws on/in ones heart, it results in fundamentally misunderstanding or not being able to see what its point is.
 
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But this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the LORD: I will put my law within them, and I will write it upon their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Jeremiah 31:33 RSV
You are not actually answering my question Bob. Let me try and decipher what you just said and jump in if I went off track...

So you know you sin only if you are convicted of sin in your heart by the spirit then Bob, and nothing you imagine or generate on your own, just in case, is never called a sin?
 
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hey hey Bob!...the deduction is; if one doesn't have the laws on/in ones heart, it results in fundamentally misunderstanding or not being able to see what its point is.

Please don’t take this wrong because there is no way to ask this without it sounding harsh. I have all kinds of issues so I’m not saying I don’t. do you think being able to boast that one keeps the sabbath, is the very thing that feeds the ego …inflating it, to look down on others as being lower or as not being as devoted?
 

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Please don’t take this wrong because there is no way to ask this without it sounding harsh. I have all kinds of issues so I’m not saying I don’t. do you think being able to boast that one keeps the sabbath, is the very thing that feeds the ego …inflating it, to look down on others as being lower or as not being as devoted?
yes ViJ, I do.
 

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For the Holy Ghost sheds the love of GOD upon the heart of a lamb .
Thus we love what he calls righteous and we flee what he has called evil .
Have all faith in Christ . And let us be hearers and doers of all that He did teach .
For we have been created a new man , created unto good works wherein GOD had beforetime ordained that we should walk in them .
Lambs love what is true , what is holy , what is pure , what is righteous . Lambs love every word of GOD .
Taking heed unto every warning and every promise . Simply believe what was written aforetime for our learning .
Take heed to what follows those IFS , take heed to every word . FOR every Word inspired by GOD
worketh good unto the soul of the hearer and the doer .
 
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Does all trouble come because of sin? For instance one thing that confuses me is some of the most gentle, caring, giving self-less people where you see His fruit…suffer the greatest trouble. Does that mean they sinned the greatest therefore having the greatest troubles come?
Yes, I think all trouble does come because of sin, though it isn't obvious, and I suppose it's inevitable since we are all just learning.