Mary is all powerful!

[Bob Carabbio]

Immaculate conception (sinless) gen 3:15 enmity or total war none of satans works are found in Mary!
Also Lk 1:28 full of grace lk 1:49 great things plural (immaculate conception of Mary and the miraculous conception of Jesus) Rev12:1 woman clothed with the sun. Immaculate purity

Sinless Virgin!
Testimony from the early church of the successors of the apostles! Verified by acts 2:42

Just Shows that the "Successors of the apostles" were quick to go off into worthless fables, and makeing up their own silly fantasies.

Paul SAID that they would, and sure enough they did. The Mariology garbage is only ONE of the places they went astray.

 

[Jim B]

then don’t ignor Christ and acts Acts 1:8 whitenesses of Christ with the power of the Holy Spirit!

Testimony of the early church in the successors of the apostles! Verified by acts 2:42

and

Matt 18:17 MUST HEAR the church
1 Tim 3:15 the church is the pillar and ground of truth
Jn 14:6 Christ is the truth
Christ and his church are one! Acts 9:4 eph 5:32
The church must teach all nations
Matt 28:19

"ignor" Christ?
"whitenesses" of Christ?

Please stop your false doctrine!

 

[theefaith]

Acts 1:1 The former treatise have I made, O Theophilus, of all that Jesus began both to do and teach,

2 Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen:

3 To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God:

 

[theefaith]

Just Shows that the "Successors of the apostles" were quick to go off into worthless fables, and makeing up their own silly fantasies.

Paul SAID that they would, and sure enough they did. The Mariology garbage is only ONE of the places they went astray.

Who decides these are true or false? You?

Testimony of the early church in the successors of the apostles! Verified by acts 2:42

Acts 1:8 whitenesses of Christ with the power of the Holy Spirit!

We must hear them! mt 18:17

 

[theefaith]

"ignor" Christ?
"whitenesses" of Christ?

Please stop your false doctrine!

christ founded a church Matt 16:18
The church must teach all men Matt 28:19
Without error Jn 8:32 & 16:13
With the same power mission and authority as Christ Jn 20:21-23

historic Christian faith!

 

[Jim B]

So according to you a woman can bear only one child???

this woman yes! According to scripture!

and by the HS perpetual virgin Lk 1:34

I don't know what Bible you're using but it certainly is not a valid translation.

Luke 1:34, “How will this be,” Mary asked the angel, “since I am a virgin?” So Mary was a virgin before giving birth to Jesus and His broathers.

There is absolutely nothing in this verse (or any other) that says that Mary was perpetual virgin. Perhaps that what you want to believe, but it contradicts the Bible. Jesus had brothers. Deal with it!

 

[Jim B]

christ founded a church Matt 16:18
The church must teach all men Matt 28:19
Without error Jn 8:32 & 16:13
With the same power mission and authority as Christ Jn 20:21-23

historic Christian faith!

You wrote these earlier...
"ignor" Christ?
"whitenesses" of Christ?"

Do you not care about spelling? Who/what are the "whitenesses" of Christ? Should I just "ignor" you?

 

[EloyCraft]

Why?

So folks can't dupe us.

Take away scripture and every wacky belief system becomes "truth".

On the contrary, reducing the Word to a written form allows it to be a tool to dupe. The bible alone isn't able to prevent every wacky belief system from becoming truth. The faith is transmitted by sound. The conduit of faith is the sound of the Word of God. That isn't something the written Word is capable of.

 

[theefaith]

Most Christians toda

I don't know what Bible you're using but it certainly is not a valid translation.

Luke 1:34, “How will this be,” Mary asked the angel, “since I am a virgin?” So Mary was a virgin before giving birth to Jesus and His broathers.

yes before during and after the birth of Christ alone!

lk 1:34 I know no man! No sex!

See below the ark!

There is absolutely nothing in this verse (or any other) that says that Mary was perpetual virgin. Perhaps that what you want to believe, but it contradicts the Bible. Jesus had brothers. Deal with it!

 

[theefaith]

Ark of the new covenant!
The dwelling place of God!
God dwelt in Mary’s womb for 9 months, remember the ark was incorruptible wood covered with pure gold signifying Mary’s immaculate purity!
read exodus or any place in the Old Testament where something came into contact with God or was consecrated to the service of God it had to be pure and Holy!
In the ark was the word of God!
In Mary the new ark is the living Word!
In the ark was the mana!
In Mary was the bread come down from heaven! Jn 6
Bethlehem means house to of bread!

Lk 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

Matt 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, (Isa 7:14) and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

Jn 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Holy mother of God!

Lk 1:28 And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, Mary full of grace, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.

Biblical principle:
Anything Consecrated to God must be pure and used only for the purpose of serving God!

See exodus: the ark of the covenant, everything used in the temple etc.

Ezekiel 44:2 “This gate shall remain shut; it shall not be opened, and no one shall enter by it; for the Lord, the God of Israel, has entered by it; therefore it shall remain shut.”

So Joseph cannot enter in where the Holy Spirit has entered!

Song of Solomon 4:12 A garden inclosed is my sister, my spouse; a spring shut up, a fountain sealed.

(Mary had become the dwelling place of the Almighty, like the Ark of the Covenant in the Old Testament. Mary was a vessel consecrated to God alone?)

Isa 66:9 Shall I bring to the birth, and not cause to bring forth? saith the Lord: shall I cause to bring forth, and shut the womb? saith thy God.

Mary and her virginity are Consecrated to God in immaculate purity, the pure gold of divine love!

Mary was the dwelling place of the Almighty, like the Ark of the Covenant in the Old Testament. Mary was a vessel consecrated to God alone!


Can a man use the ark of the covenant for a common dinner table?

Then Joseph can in no any way use Mary for a common wife!

No mere man may enter where God conceived! Ez 44:2

Mary would not consent to God’s will and to receive the exalted dignity of the mother of God if it means violating her vow of perpetual virginity then why simply consent relations with Joseph!

That’s impossible!

Lk 1:34 Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?

(This verse imply’s that Mary is consecrated to God alone! and has taken a vow of perpetual virginity! She was s willing to refuse even the exalted dignity of mother of God, the mother of our savior, and mother of all Christians if it means violating Her vow of perpetual virginity)

Lk 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

36 And, behold, thy cousin Elisabeth, she hath also conceived a son in her old age: and this is the sixth month with her, who was called barren.

37 For with God nothing shall be impossible.

38 And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her.

She consented to our salvation when she realized it would not violate her vow of perpetual virginity!




Mary was the dwelling place of the Almighty, like the Ark of the Covenant in the Old Testament. Mary was a vessel consecrated to God alone!


A consecrated virgin must be pure, immaculate, and permanent!

All for God!

Mary cos of Her being created by God immaculate (Lk 1:49) has always enjoyed the beatific vision of God in heaven, (Matt 5:8) Her intense, pure, and perfect love of God caused Her to make a sacrifice of her entire being and life to God Forever!
Lk 1:46

A good tree!

Matthew 7:18
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

The fruit of the tree of Mary is our salvation! Lk 2:30 Jesus is our salvation!
Lk 1:30 Mary found our salvation!

 

[EloyCraft]

However, the Bible, PLUS the inspiration/conviction of SIN by the Holy Spirit CAN, and DOES get the job done nicely.

That inspiration/conviction of sin requires faith in the Word that is read. Faith isn't through reading the Word but through hearing it.

 

[EloyCraft]

And Mary originated from one of the 12 stars.

True when Mary is understood as the fulfilment of Woman.
The woman is in heaven and seen because her body is glorifed and incorruptible.
The twelve stars that form her crown depicted in Revelation chapter 12 are the Apostles. She became their heavenly Queen at Pentecost.

 

[EloyCraft]

There is absolutely nothing in this verse (or any other) that says that Mary was perpetual virgin. Perhaps that what you want to believe, but it contradicts the Bible. Jesus had brothers. Deal with it!

God Incarnate was revealed to her husband to be fruit of Mary's womb.
A womb that Incarnated God, a womb sanctified by His Real Presence, could not be used for an ordinary purpose by a man that the Father has drawn to faith in His Son.

 

[Bob Carabbio]

That inspiration/conviction of sin requires faith in the Word that is read. Faith isn't through reading the Word but through hearing it.

Biblical FAITH is always Revelatory - Saving FAITH Is Gifted (Eph 2:8,9) The Bible plus the Holy Spirit = FAITH - i.e. a Belief/conviction that has SUBSTANCE, and stands as incontrovertable EVIDENCE regardless of what you see with your natural eyes.

Mental assent by itself has no Substance, and is Evidence of NOTHING.

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Who decides these are true or false? You?

Testimony of the early church in the successors of the apostles! Verified by acts 2:42

Acts 1:8 whitenesses of Christ with the power of the Holy Spirit!

We must hear them! mt 18:17

But we IGNORE THEM when they go off into Non-Biblical Fantasies, and adopt PAGAN theologies as truth. Try Reading the Bible WITHOUT Roman Catholic glasses on.

 

[theefaith]

I don't know what Bible you're using but it certainly is not a valid translation.

Luke 1:34, “How will this be,” Mary asked the angel, “since I am a virgin?” So Mary was a virgin before giving birth to Jesus and His broathers.

There is absolutely nothing in this verse (or any other) that says that Mary was perpetual virgin. Perhaps that what you want to believe, but it contradicts the Bible. Jesus had brothers. Deal with it!

KJV

Luke 1:34
King James Version

34 Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?

No sex period!

 

[theefaith]

You wrote these earlier...
"ignor" Christ?
"whitenesses" of Christ?"

Do you not care about spelling? Who/what are the "whitenesses" of Christ? Should I just "ignor" you?

I stand corrected thanks

 

[theefaith]

But we IGNORE THEM when they go off into Non-Biblical Fantasies, and adopt PAGAN theologies as truth. Try Reading the Bible WITHOUT Roman Catholic glasses on.

acts 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

but you don’t have to believe them?

Truth must be revealed by God, and in its fullness in the sacred deposit of faith by Christ to his church! Eph 4:5 Jude 1:3 and must be taught by the church, or proposed for our belief by the apostles!
Matt 28:19-20 Lk 1:4 Jn 20:21 acts 8:31 Rom 1:5 col 2:7 1 Tim 3:15
matt 18:17

Christ and His church are one! acts 9:4 Acts 5:32 Jn 15:1-5

Truth must be revealed by God thru Christ to His church (the apostles Jude 1:3) then must be proposed by the church, (Matt 28:19 gal 3:23) without error by the Holy Spirit! (Jn 16:13)

The evidence of true faith is humble subjection and obedience to Christ & His holy church!

The rule of faith for Christians is Jesus Christ Jn 14:6 and His church! Matt 18:17 acts 2:42 1 Tim 3:15

True Christians cannot listen to the errors of excommunicated heretics, but we listen faithfully to Christ, in the bosom of holy mother church, the only ark of salvation!
1 pet 3:20-21 matt 18:17 matt 16:18-19 matt 28:19-20 Jn 16:13 Jn 20:21-23

Truth must be revealed by God thru Christ to His church (the apostles Jude 1:3) then must be proposed by the church, (Matt 28:19 gal 3:23) without error by the Holy Spirit! (Jn 16:13)

Christ and His church are one! (Acts 9:4 eph 5:31 Jn 15:1-5)

Rejection of the one true church or its teaching is rejection of Christ and God!

Christ and His church are one! Acts 9:4 eph 5:32 Jn 8:12 & Matt 5:14



God does not reveal His truth in a vacuum!

God does not set His true adrift on a sea of spiritual anarchy!

God sets His truth in His church, in the possession of His apostles to safeguard, to ensure it is not added to, or taken away from, or changed in any way!

And to teach the same truth to all nations and all ages!

Verified by scripture:

Matthew 24:35
Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

Matt 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost!

Jude 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints!

2 Thessalonians 2:15
Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness!
(all scripture not 66 books alone)

Must be instructed in the faith:

Lk 1:4 That thou mightest know the certainty of those things, wherein thou hast been instructed.

Matt 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations…

Jn 29:21-23 as the father sent me, so I send you. (Same mission, power, and authority to teach all nations)

Lk 10:16 He who hears you, (His apostles) hear me.

Jn 13:20 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that receiveth whomsoever I send receiveth me; and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.

Jn 8:32 You (the apostles) shall know the truth; and the truth shall make you free.

Jn 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
(His apostles)

Tradition in this sense means teaching the faith!


Divine tradition:
Apostolic tradition:
Inspired human tradition:








Christians must be instructed in “the faith”!

Truth must be revealed by God, and in its fullness in the sacred deposit of faith by Christ to his church! Eph 4:5 Jude 1:3 and must be taught by the church, or proposed for our belief by the apostles!
Matt 28:19-20 Lk 1:4 Jn 20:21 acts 8:31 Rom 1:5 col 2:7 1 Tim 3:15
matt 18:17

Christ and His church are one! acts 9:4 Acts 5:32 Jn 15:1-5

Truth must be revealed by God thru Christ to His church (the apostles Jude 1:3) then must be proposed by the church, (Matt 28:19 gal 3:23) without error by the Holy Spirit! (Jn 16:13)

Christ and His church are one! (Acts 9:4 eph 5:31 Jn 15:1-5)

Rejection of the one true church or its teaching is rejection of Christ and God!

Christ and His church are one! Acts 9:4 eph 5:32 Jn 8:12 & Matt 5:14

Matthew 5:14
Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.

What authority does Christ have?
What power does Christ have?
What mission / ministry does Christ have?

Peter, the apostles and their successors have the same authority, power, and mission! Jn 20:21 as my father sent me, even so send I you!

Jn 20:21 as my father sent me, so send in you. (The apostles) posses the same power mission and authority as Christ!

Lk 10:16
He who hears you hears me...

John 13:20
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that receiveth whomsoever I send receiveth me; and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.

Keys of authority! And power to bind and loose! Matt 16:18 and Matt 18:18
matt 28:19 Jn 20:21-23 Isa 22:21-22
eph 2:20

Ephesians 5:24
Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ...

The one true church’s teaching authority from Christ is without error!

A divine institution: founded by Christ on Peter and the holy apostles and their successors unto the end!

Jesus Christ continues HIS ministry in His new covenant church thru Peter, the apostles, and their successors with the same mission, power, and authority!

Christ and His church are one! Jn 15:1-5 Acts 9:4 eph 5:32

Church has authority from Christ!

Church is free from all error!

Mt 16:18 & mt 18:18 Mt 28:19-20

Acts 1:17 acts 8:31 & 35 Lk 10:16

Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 15:5

Jn 16:13 Jn 20:21-22 eph 2:20

acts 2:42 1 Tim 3:15

The one true church founded by Christ on Peter and the apostles is an extension church of Christ’s ministry of redemption to the whole world and all time!

Christ perpetuates his mission, power, and authority in the holy church!

Jesus Christ continues HIS ministry in His new covenant church thru Peter, the apostles, and their successors with the same mission, power, and authority!
Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Acts 1:17 acts 8:31 & 35 acts 9:4 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 15:5 Jn 16:13 Jn 20:21-22 eph 2:20 acts 2:42 1 Tim 3:15

The evidence of true faith is humble subjection and obedience to Christ & His holy church!

The rule of faith for Christians is Jesus Christ Jn 14:6 and His church! Matt 18:17 acts 2:42 1 Tim 3:15

Truth is revealed by God thru Christ to His church (the apostles) Jude 1:3 then proposed by the church! Matt 28:19

Christ and His church are one!

Rejection of the one true church or its teaching is rejection of Christ and God!

Christ and His church are one! Acts 9:4 eph 5:32 Jn 8:12 & Matt 5:14

Dan 2:44 Isa 2:2 Micah 4:1 fulfilled in matt 5:14

matt 16:18-19 shall not prevail
Matt 18:17 hear the truth from the church
1 Tim 3:15 the church is the pillar and ground of truth.

 

[EloyCraft]

Biblical FAITH is always Revelatory - Saving FAITH Is Gifted (Eph 2:8,9) The Bible plus the Holy Spirit = FAITH - i.e. a Belief/conviction that has SUBSTANCE, and stands as incontrovertable EVIDENCE regardless of what you see with your natural eyes.

Mental assent by itself has no Substance, and is Evidence of NOTHING.

. The written Word isn't the conduit of faith and isn't able to convert or transmit faith.

The bible PLUS the Holy Spirit
Acts 8

And there was a man of Ethiopia, a eunuch of great authority under Candace, queen of the Ethiopians, who was in command of her entire treasury. He had come to Jerusalem to worship. 28 He was returning, sitting in his chariot and reading the book of Isaiah the prophet. 29 The Spirit said to Philip, “Go to this chariot and stay with it.”

30 Then Philip ran to him, and heard him read the book of Isaiah the prophet, and said, “Do you understand what you are reading?”

31 He said, “How can I, unless someone guides me?” So he invited Philip to come up and sit with him.

Reading the Word couldn't do what hearing it could even with the help of the Holy Spirit.

 

[Jim B]

then don’t ignor Christ and acts Acts 1:8 whitenesses of Christ with the power of the Holy Spirit!

Testimony of the early church in the successors of the apostles! Verified by acts 2:42

and

Matt 18:17 MUST HEAR the church
1 Tim 3:15 the church is the pillar and ground of truth
Jn 14:6 Christ is the truth
Christ and his church are one! Acts 9:4 eph 5:32
The church must teach all nations
Matt 28:19

Whitenesses? Christ was a Semite.
And I will never "ignor" Christ the Semite. It's just the false teaching of people that I ignore.