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I'm curious if you also heard God say "NO!" when thinking about getting vaccinated against COVID-19. I know others besides myself who did hear God say no, and they were all Spirit-filled and that is why they didn't get vaccinated. I'm curious how many others heard God's voice and followed it.

I'm also curious if anyone heard something say, "yes, get it." I wonder who that was. :eek:
I didn't hear a voice. But I know when the media is pushing and coercing and bribing people to do something...
it can't be good.
Something inside me was putting up warning flags and all I could say was, nope that's not for me.
I still haven't been sick, or tested or jabbed.
I mostly live a self-imposed quarantined life so that might help.
But yeah, nope.. I don't trust the media.
Hey little girl, you wants some candy? :eek:
My momma told me that taking things from strangers was dangerous.
And even though she's been gone some 20+ years, I still listen.

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I'm curious if you also heard God say "NO!" when thinking about getting vaccinated against COVID-19. I know others besides myself who did hear God say no, and they were all Spirit-filled and that is why they didn't get vaccinated. I'm curious how many others heard God's voice and followed it.

I'm also curious if anyone heard something say, "yes, get it." I wonder who that was. :eek:
I don't know if God lead my choices, but I waited for the approval of the J&J vaccine because of my awareness of the function of mRNA in living organisms.

Just this morning I heard an interview on ABC's news stream, with a geneticist from the human genome product, who was "hawking" a book that he wrote about modifying the human genome to "improve" us. He used the mRNA vaccines as an example of such "improvements", effectively admitting that the vaccine alters the genome. Such men actually believe that they are benefitting humanity by changing what it is to be human.

How do we deal with such hubris?
I'm not overly concerned about it because God will be dealing with it shortly and in judgment. It's not the mark of the beast, just vanity, pride, and the wisdom of man.
It's no coincidence that human infertility is increasing and birth rates are dropping. This has been the intent of governments since at least the 1960s.

I've discussed the growing approval of the "gay agenda" with some of its supporters. Some approve of the movement solely for the purposes of reducing the population. I do believe that the Lord will grant their desire, but a bit more suddenly than they anticipate.
 

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I know others besides myself who did hear God say no, and they were all Spirit-filled and that is why they didn't get vaccinated.
Since the use of the term "Spirit-filled" implies that these Christians speak in tongues, this thread excludes those who do not. In any event, at least a few Christians could see from day one that the COVID Scamdemic was really a Plandemic to kill and maim as many people as possible. The bogus vaccines were a necessary part of this agenda, and yet some Christians (even some on this forum) actually rooted for the evildoers and the genocidal killers by supporting "vaccinations". It is now crystal clear that (a) these injections produced absolutely NO immunity, (b) they killed hundreds of thousands of unsuspecting innocents, and (c) they produced extremely serious adverse effects in millions. Indeed, after the vaccination campaigns, the hospital statistics show that it was the vaccinated victims who predominated within hospitals.

Dr. Anthony Fauci was literally Dr. Death and Nazi Josef Mengele would have been proud of him. Had there been a Nuremberg 2.0 in early 2021, Fauci and his co-conspirators would have been hanged.
 

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Yes, I just learned that. I had heard a few people describe knowing to continue in something or halt something based on having peace or a lack of peace. I always thought they were quite lucky and that it sounded so easy and I envied them. But that recently happened with something in my life and I experienced and learned what they spoke of.
The Lord gives a peace that surpasses all understanding. People tend to disturb that peace when they make themselves "the authority " in your conversation.

There's nothing wrong with godly counsel, but only God knows what kind of trials you'll face or what your experience will be based upon your choices.

Some human counselors will tempt you to sin. God never tempts you though He'll allow you to be tested, and even such testing is for your own good. His way is peace.

Trusting His guidance gives you His assurance and that sense of peace, even in the face of evil circumstances. All His promises are "yes" in Jesus Christ, so dwelling in those promises is secure.
 
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God guides us allnwith Hus thoughts and they get mixed or blended with our own thoughts which we can't always differentiate.
I've been an anti vaxxer for a long time and mainly don't trust modern medicine.
I've just had negative feelings, thoughts and have heard all the lies and decwptjins that have surrounded this from the beginning.
Something good from God I cannot be not be cloaked by lies and deception. So I just think that overall perception is discernment. It is in many ways and forms from God.
That said, what can we say about those Christian who have taken the jab? Has God not given them the same guidance? Maybe they heard but were forced to take it due to their jobs? Maybe their family or friends influened them?
Maybe God intends for some to suffer and die because it is their destiny? That could be it. Many Christians will die trajic even painful deaths. This may be His plan and purpose so He allows them to go thia way. He will allow evil in the form of wars and famine to take others when He could lead them to safety but He doesn't.
Is that good? Yes. All things work together for good right? They are taken out early and go to heaven. That's good.
Isaiah 54:17
No weapon formed against you shall prosper, And every tongue which rises against you in judgment You shall condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord, And their righteousness is from Me,” Says the Lord.
Some of us just take God at His word. I'm pretty sure that the Lord honors our faith in what He's said.
 
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Oh, for Pete's sake!!! I love the Lord, and I got vaccinated because I thought it was the right thing to do for me.. Are you saying that God allowed me to so I can suffer or die "this way" ? This has got to be one of the goofiest things I've read on here.

What do you do with unvaxxed Christian people who die of COVID? Where do they fit in your little scenario?

Also, many times God allows for things to happen, but you have Him intending (which is what you said) for some of us vaxxed folk to suffer and die. Nice. What plans does He have for you since you already figured out what is in the cards for us?

As for folk being " taken out early and going to Heaven" and that "that's good", we have a whole forum area for prayer from people who do not want their family and friends to die early. I hope no one posts a prayer request there, and then pops over here, and reads what you wrote. Death even made Jesus weep, and that was even though He knew He would resurrect Lazarus.
Did death make Jesus weep, or was it lack of faith in Him and the resurrections that he'd already publicly performed?
Maybe His weeping was just a sign of grieving with those who grieve. What did he actually say in that moment ?

25 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. 26 And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?” John 11:25-26

I suspect that you've misunderstood the passage.
Paul also said:
For to me, to live is Christ, and to die is gain. Philippians 1:21
Do you believe in the resurrection?
 

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Did death make Jesus weep, or was it lack of faith in Him and the resurrections that he'd already publicly performed?
Yeah, I thought the same thing. Jesus raised him, knowing all along Lazerus was dead and he would be raised. I don't believe he was mourning his death, but in a human moment, was disappointed that he was doubted.
 

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I'm curious if you also heard God say "NO!" when thinking about getting vaccinated against COVID-19. I know others besides myself who did hear God say no, and they were all Spirit-filled and that is why they didn't get vaccinated. I'm curious how many others heard God's voice and followed it.

I'm also curious if anyone heard something say, "yes, get it." I wonder who that was. :eek:

I prayed often about the vaccine.

But I never got a response. Unless my conscience against the vaccine was put there by God.

But I ended up catching the Coronavirus and Pneumonia back in December. So now I don’t pray about the vaccine no more. I have natural immunity now.

To this day I’m not 100% healthy. I’m still dealing with a nagging inflammation in the chest.
 

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speak in tongues

Not necessarily. I know Spirit-filled Christians who do not practice speaking in tongues. All Spirit-filled Christians CAN, of course (Mark 16:16-17), but not all believe in the gift. That unbelief prevents them, but that is not the topic of this post. Hearing God's actual voice is.

In any event, at least a few Christians could see from day one that the COVID Scamdemic was really a Plandemic to kill and maim as many people as possible. The bogus vaccines were a necessary part of this agenda, and yet some Christians (even some on this forum) actually rooted for the evildoers and the genocidal killers by supporting "vaccinations". It is now crystal clear that (a) these injections produced absolutely NO immunity, (b) they killed hundreds of thousands of unsuspecting innocents, and (c) they produced extremely serious adverse effects in millions. Indeed, after the vaccination campaigns, the hospital statistics show that it was the vaccinated victims who predominated within hospitals.

Dr. Anthony Fauci was literally Dr. Death and Nazi Josef Mengele would have been proud of him. Had there been a Nuremberg 2.0 in early 2021, Fauci and his co-conspirators would have been hanged.

I agree with your findings. But I take it your lack of testifying of God telling you means you didn't hear Him. You just considered the source. Good thinking.
 

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Unless my conscience against the vaccine was put there by God.

The result of hearing God is peace. You obviously didn't have peace to receive the vaccine. You obeyed in spite of not knowing "for sure." Good. Keep practicing. God's natural immunity is more powerful in the long fun. There is more to the vaccine than what they've told us.
 
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I didn't hear a voice. But I know when the media is pushing and coercing and bribing people to do something...
it can't be good.
Something inside me was putting up warning flags and all I could say was, nope that's not for me.
I still haven't been sick, or tested or jabbed.
I mostly live a self-imposed quarantined life so that might help.
But yeah, nope.. I don't trust the media.
Hey little girl, you wants some candy? :eek:
My momma told me that taking things from strangers was dangerous.
And even though she's been gone some 20+ years, I still listen.

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God also gives us a sound mind! But that "something inside you" could have been the beginning of your being able to determine His voice. It takes a while. The first time He spoke to me, He yelled! I couldn't mistake it. LOL This time it was so important He yelled again. That is only twice in 45 years. The rest of the time it is just normal tone.
 
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Surely you must know of Ivermectin by now? Everyone of the conspirators mocked it as "horse-dewormer" until all the clinical studies showed how effective it is. So why not get some and see the results for yourself?
Why Ivermectin is superior to Pfizer’s antiviral pill
Why Ivermectin is superior to Pfizer’s antiviral pill - LifeSite

Are there any doctors that would prescribe it? And if I ask my doctor about it will he be one of those who will deny my usage of it?

I also heard of the monochloral antibodies (Sp?). How do you get these treatments?
 

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God also gives us a sound mind! But that "something inside you" could have been the beginning of your being able to determine His voice. It takes a while. The first time He spoke to me, He yelled! I couldn't mistake it. LOL This time it was so important He yelled again. That is only twice in 45 years. The rest of the time it is just normal tone.
Right after my mom passed away back in 96' I went into a big depression. I heard a voice outside of me it wasn't in my head, telling me I should kill myself.
I just yelled back F U. and it went away.
Probably not the most appropriate response, but it worked nevertheless.
Only time I ever heard an audible voice coming from the thin air.
Whatever it was it shook me out of my depression and I was able to move on with my life.
Drastic times call for drastic measures maybe.
I used to think it was the devil. But after reasoning within myself, I thought, If the devil wanted me to die, he would have just kept silent.
When this covid hit, I did some research on Fauci. Didn't like what I found. There were multiple red flags everywhere.
My dad got the Maderna and his girl got the Pfizer. Neither I think have had the boosters though. And for 87 and 79 they're in about the same shape they were before the plandemic. They got their shots when they first came out in March of 20? Time flies I lose track of dates.
I told my dad I wasn't getting it and he just said, that's your choice and that was that.
And of course I just happen to be one of those right wing tin foil hat conspiracy theory trump supporting white supremist nazi, so I didn't have a choice but to become an unvaxxed inconsiderate grandma killer.
It was already destined to be.. :rolleyes:
I'm feeling feisty today..o_O

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Are there any doctors that would prescribe it? And if I ask my doctor about it will he be one of those who will deny my usage of it?
Perhaps your doctor may not help you but there are definitely doctors out there who will not only prescribe Ivermectin, but sue hospitals who refuse to allow them to use it. Contact Brian Shilhavy, Editor, Health Impact News and let him know where you are located. Health Impact News

I also heard of the monochloral antibodies (Sp?). How do you get these treatments?
This is more expensive and difficult to get. Governor De Santis in Florida had to fight Biden to get a supply. But they do not have any better results. Ivermectin kills the virus and is very cheap and very effective. And that is exactly why it was sabotaged by the public health agencies and the medical establishment. There would have been no "pandemic" if everyone would have had access to this drug.
 
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God's natural immunity is more powerful in the long fun.
Absolutely right. Most people do not know what a fantastic immune system God has given mankind. And the public health authorities made sure that people would remain ignorant or be misinformed. There is a complete defense system within the human body (and even at the skin level) which goes into action as soon a a microbial invader tries to invade. Those who were asymptomatic for coronavirus (99% of the general population) had in fact acquired natural immunity. But if a person does not take care of his or her health, the immune system is debilitated, and can't do its job. That is why the very elderly, the obese, and those with preexisting medical conditions were the most vulnerable. Also there are several vitamins and mineral which boost your immunity, and zinc is essential for HCQ to do its job. And zinc disappeared from the shelves just when it was most needed. Do you believe in coincidences?
 

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https://www.fda.gov/media/134922/download

FDA info on the current PCR covid-19 test. Once that is on your screen scroll down to page 41.


Performance Characteristics Analytical Performance: Limit of Detection (LoD): LoD studies determine the lowest detectable concentration of 2019-nCoV at which approximately 95% of all (true positive) replicates test positive. The LoD was determined by limiting dilution studies using characterized samples. The analytical sensitivity of the rRT-PCR assays contained in the CDC 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel were determined in Limit of Detection studies. Since no quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV were available for CDC use at the time the test was developed and this study conducted, assays designed for detection of the 2019-nCoV RNA were tested with characterized stocks of in vitro transcribed full length RNA (N gene; GenBank accession: MN908947.2) of known titer (RNA copies/µL) spiked into a diluent consisting of a suspension of human A549 cells and viral transport medium (VTM) to mimic clinical specimen. Samples were extracted using the QIAGEN EZ1 Advanced XL instrument and EZ1 DSP Virus Kit (Cat# 62724) and manually with the QIAGEN DSP Viral RNA Mini Kit (Cat# 61904). Real-Time RT-PCR assays were performed using the Thermo Fisher Scientific TaqPath™ 1-Step RT-qPCR Master Mix, CG (Cat# A15299) on the Applied Biosystems™ 7500 Fast Dx Real-Time PCR Instrument according to the CDC 2019-nCoV Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel instructions for use.


"Since no quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV were available for CDC use at the time the test was developed"

This document was created in 2020 and was updated as recently as "Effective: 07/21/2021 " "CDC-006-00019, Revision: 07" So 7 revisions, all still admitting the test was based on no actual sample of the newest coronavirus which causes covid 19. So, what does the test actually detect? Pretty much any type of virus which are common in almost all people. I've seen videos where the test says bottled water, mud puddle water, Coke and so many other things testing positive for the virus in things that really cannot have it. Kind of strange that the FDA even up to last summer did still not have any samples of this virus to base a test on to detect that same virus.

"and this study conducted, assays designed for detection of the 2019-nCoV RNA were tested with characterized stocks of in vitro transcribed full length RNA (N gene; GenBank accession: MN908947.2) of known titer (RNA copies/µL) spiked into a diluent consisting of a suspension of human A549 cells and viral transport medium (VTM) to mimic clinical specimen."

"mimic clinical specimen". The test is fake in other words.

Understanding COVID-19 PCR Testing

"A positive COVID-19 PCR test means that SARS-CoV-2 is present."

Really? How? The FDA clearly admits the test was not based on any sample of that virus.


https://www.msiclinics.com/what-is-a-pcr-test/

"A PCR (polymerase chain reaction) test detects the presence of the COVID-19 virus in your body."

No, it cannot detect that. This website clearly doesn't even understand what is the virus and what is the disease the virus causes. The virus has many names: SARS-CoV-2, Novel Coronavirus, 2019-nCoV, and sometimes the Wuhan virus since it was claimed to be first detected in Wuhan, China. Covid19 means COronaVIrusDisease and the 19 is short for 2019, when it was first detected. "COVID-19 virus" is confusing different things and creating a term that actually doesn't exist. In short, the virus is what causes the covid-19 disease, allegedly.
 
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self test danger:

Greg Reese Lethal Drug Included In Over The Counter Covid Test Kits(1)


https://www.fda.gov/media/147254/download

Scroll down to page 4


18.The Reagent Solution contains a harmful chemical (see table below). If the solution contacts the skin or eye, flush with copious amounts of water. If irritation persists, seek medical advice: https://www.poison.org/co ntact-us or 1-800-222-1222. Chemical Name/Sodium Azide /26628-22-8 /Acute Tox. 2 (Oral), H300 Acute Tox. 1 (Dermal), H310


Sodium Azide is an acute toxin as in very very poisonous.


CDC | Facts About Sodium Azide


"Sodium azide prevents the cells of the body from using oxygen. When this happens, the cells die."

"Sodium azide is more harmful to the heart and the brain than to other organs, because the heart and the brain use a lot of oxygen. "


"Exposure to a large amount of sodium azide by any route may cause these other health effects as well: Convulsions, Low blood pressure, Loss of consciousness, Lung injury, Respiratory failure leading to death, Slow heart rate"


"Survivors of serious sodium azide poisoning may have heart and brain damage."

"No specific antidote exists for sodium azide poisoning."


And you are instructed by this test to put this poison on a swab and insert it into your nose?? The side affects of being poisoned is very close to the symptoms one would have from getting "Covid19"!




Sodium Azide – yet another killer deployed in the COVID medical intervention apparatus |

"Here is the key quote: “The Reagent Solution [included in the test kit] contains a harmful chemical (see table below). If the solution contacts the skin or eye, flush with copious amounts of water. If irritation persists, seek medical advice…”
Then the FDA document lists that harmful chemical: sodium azide.
Just how harmful is it?
For an answer, let’s look at a CDC document titled, “Facts About Sodium Azide.” We find this statement:
“Sodium azide is a rapidly acting, potentially deadly chemical that exists as an odorless white solid.”
Then there is this: “Sodium azide prevents the cells of the body from using oxygen. When this happens, the cells die. Sodium azide is more harmful to the heart and the brain than to other organs, because the heart and the brain use a lot of oxygen.”
Yes, as with all poisons, the degree of damage depends on the dosage, but you decide whether “potentially deadly,” as the CDC describes sodium azide, signifies a significant risk.
If you read the FDA document I referenced above, you’ll see that the reagent containing sodium azide is involved in the self-administered COVID test, and the whole test procedure is complex enough to allow fumbles and mistakes—such as a spill of the “deadly chemical.”
Don’t believe me? Try this FDA quote on for size: “To perform the test, an anterior nasal swab specimen is collected by the patient, then 6 drops of extraction reagent from a dropper bottle are added to the top hole of the swab well. The patient sample is inserted into the test card through the bottom hole of the swab well, and firmly pushed upwards until the swab tip is visible through the top hole. The swab is rotated 3 times clockwise and the card is closed, bringing the extracted sample into contact with the test strip. Test results are interpreted visually at 15 minutes based on the presence or absence of visually detectable pink/purple colored lines.”
See what I mean? Good luck.
Now let’s move on to the second problem with this at-home self-performed COVID test: it’s grossly misleading. The results are ambiguous.
The FDA document I’ve been quoting contains this gem: “The BinaxNOW COVID-19 Antigen Self Test does not differentiate between SARS-CoV and SARS…CoV-2.
BOOM. In other words, a positive test, indicating infection, could mean nothing more than infection with the 2003 “SARS virus”—and that “epidemic” was a dud. But wait, there’s more:
Positive results do not rule out bacterial infection or co-infection with other viruses. The agent detected may not be the definite cause of disease.”
Double trouble. The person who tests positive could simply be housing bacteria in his body, AND whatever germ the test is detecting may not even be causing disease."
Other than that, the at-home test is perfect."


In other words, this test is unreliable to tell anyone if they have the new coronavirus and it is potentially deadly to even use the test.
 

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FDA info on the current PCR covid-19 test. Once that is on your screen scroll down to page 41.


Performance Characteristics Analytical Performance: Limit of Detection (LoD): LoD studies determine the lowest detectable concentration of 2019-nCoV at which approximately 95% of all (true positive) replicates test positive. The LoD was determined by limiting dilution studies using characterized samples. The analytical sensitivity of the rRT-PCR assays contained in the CDC 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel were determined in Limit of Detection studies. Since no quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV were available for CDC use at the time the test was developed and this study conducted, assays designed for detection of the 2019-nCoV RNA were tested with characterized stocks of in vitro transcribed full length RNA (N gene; GenBank accession: MN908947.2) of known titer (RNA copies/µL) spiked into a diluent consisting of a suspension of human A549 cells and viral transport medium (VTM) to mimic clinical specimen. Samples were extracted using the QIAGEN EZ1 Advanced XL instrument and EZ1 DSP Virus Kit (Cat# 62724) and manually with the QIAGEN DSP Viral RNA Mini Kit (Cat# 61904). Real-Time RT-PCR assays were performed using the Thermo Fisher Scientific TaqPath™ 1-Step RT-qPCR Master Mix, CG (Cat# A15299) on the Applied Biosystems™ 7500 Fast Dx Real-Time PCR Instrument according to the CDC 2019-nCoV Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel instructions for use.


"Since no quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV were available for CDC use at the time the test was developed"

This document was created in 2020 and was updated as recently as "Effective: 07/21/2021 " "CDC-006-00019, Revision: 07" So 7 revisions, all still admitting the test was based on no actual sample of the newest coronavirus which causes covid 19. So, what does the test actually detect? Pretty much any type of virus which are common in almost all people. I've seen videos where the test says bottled water, mud puddle water, Coke and so many other things testing positive for the virus in things that really cannot have it. Kind of strange that the FDA even up to last summer did still not have any samples of this virus to base a test on to detect that same virus.

"and this study conducted, assays designed for detection of the 2019-nCoV RNA were tested with characterized stocks of in vitro transcribed full length RNA (N gene; GenBank accession: MN908947.2) of known titer (RNA copies/µL) spiked into a diluent consisting of a suspension of human A549 cells and viral transport medium (VTM) to mimic clinical specimen."

"mimic clinical specimen". The test is fake in other words.

Understanding COVID-19 PCR Testing

"A positive COVID-19 PCR test means that SARS-CoV-2 is present."

Really? How? The FDA clearly admits the test was not based on any sample of that virus.


What is a PCR test?

"A PCR (polymerase chain reaction) test detects the presence of the COVID-19 virus in your body."

No, it cannot detect that. This website clearly doesn't even understand what is the virus and what is the disease the virus causes. The virus has many names: SARS-CoV-2, Novel Coronavirus, 2019-nCoV, and sometimes the Wuhan virus since it was claimed to be first detected in Wuhan, China. Covid19 means COronaVIrusDisease and the 19 is short for 2019, when it was first detected. "COVID-19 virus" is confusing different things and creating a term that actually doesn't exist. In short, the virus is what causes the covid-19 disease, allegedly.

Paw Paw fruit. That was one of the first things I saw. They tested for covid in PawPaw fruit and it was found positive.
You hear Pelosi going, "testing" "testing" "testing"...
Because billions of dollars was donated to making those tests.
And what happened this last winter? Where were the tests? Where did the money go?
$$$$$$$$$$$$
 

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Absolutely right. Most people do not know what a fantastic immune system God has given mankind. And the public health authorities made sure that people would remain ignorant or be misinformed. There is a complete defense system within the human body (and even at the skin level) which goes into action as soon a a microbial invader tries to invade. Those who were asymptomatic for coronavirus (99% of the general population) had in fact acquired natural immunity. But if a person does not take care of his or her health, the immune system is debilitated, and can't do its job. That is why the very elderly, the obese, and those with preexisting medical conditions were the most vulnerable. Also there are several vitamins and mineral which boost your immunity, and zinc is essential for HCQ to do its job. And zinc disappeared from the shelves just when it was most needed. Do you believe in coincidences?

I don't know about the shelves, but I get mine online, because I like my Zinc in capsules. The Zinc tablets are hard to swallow. They are scratchy.

D3 from sunlight is missing in most house-bound elderly also. I belong to the mailing list from Harvard Medical School and they found that everyone who had actually died were all very low in D3 - it was in the teens. 100 is the highest, but I still keep mine a little over. Last month it was 117.
 
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