Explain Revelations So Even I Can Understand It

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You won't find any such thing in Revelation. After the first three chapters (addressed to specific churches, not the Church) there is no mention of "the Church" (nor "churches"). Why? Because the Church is already in Heaven at that time, and the prophecies are about the divine judgments ON EARTH. That is the bulk of Revelation.
KJV Revelation 14:6-12
6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.
9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

It is the church's responsibility, with the help of angelic power, to peach the gospel to every tribe, kindred, and nation.
It is the church that warns the world that it is time fear God and to worship the Creator.
It is the church that warns that judgement has come.
It is the church that stands faithful and true in the last days as a direct rebuke to Satan and his agents in the form of false religion and false doctrine emanating from the dragon, the beast, and the false prophet. (Revel.16) Babylon.
It is the church that by the power of the Spirit of God that warns the world against taking the mark of the beast.
It's is the church that in the final day greets her Savior, for only the church has adorned herself with the righteousness of Christ and keeps all His Commandments, bearing his testimony and having the faith of Jesus. And the testimony of Jesus is the Spirit of prophecy. This is the church. There to the very end. Destitute but clean. Harried, hated, despised, seeking refuge in the wilderness to avoid the death sentence that comes with refusing the mark, but still there,a testimony to the power and faithfulness of their God.
 
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Except that neither "church" nor "churches is found from Revelation 4 to 21. Search all you want to, you will not find "the Church" or "churches" mentioned until Rev 22 closes the book. Which means they are ABSENT when the 6th and 7th seal judgments are operational.

At Revelation 16:15, on the 6th Vial, Lord Jesus is still warning His CHURCH that He comes "as a thief", for His faithful to keep their garments lest they appear naked in shame...

Rev 16:15-17
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.


16 And He gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.
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And NO, that is NOT... about any so-called 'tribulation saints' idea from men's Pre-trib Rapture theory. That idea was made up by the Pre-trib Rapture doctors to try and give their theory more weight. How do we know this? It's simple...

When Lord Jesus said there on the 6th Vial timing that He comes "as a thief", that is pointing to the very time of His coming to GATHER HIS CHURCH from the earth! It is even the timing that the Pre-trib Rapture theory has traditionally taught when Jesus comes to rapture them! How do we know this? It's because that "as a thief" metaphor is what He used to WARN His Church about the 'day' of His coming for them to be ready. He said to 'watch'.

Matt 24:43-44
43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.

44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
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Assumption 1 - Revelation 12:17 is not referring to new converts. It is the half of the Christian people who did agree to a treaty with the Anti-Christ. Daniel 9:27, Daniel 11:32 Also seen in Zechariah 14:2
The half who kept their faith and trust in the Lord, are taken to a place of safety on earth, Revelation 12:6 & 14

Assumption 2 - We are not told who the two Witnesses will be. I believe they will be two godly men, who are probably alive on earth, now. It is doubtful whether they convert anyone. They surely upset them! And get killed for it.

Assumption 3 - The Church in heaven? Where does the Bible say that? What we ARE told is: we must endure until the end, until Jesus comes. Then we will be with Him; in Jerusalem.

(the holy ghost identified with (an area just OUTSIDE OF JERUSALEM, Luke 4:1 (the same location where jesus would later be crucified), AFTER THAT, it was the areas around jerusalem (acts 9:31), AFTER THAT, the holy ghost identified with europe (romans 16/revelation 1-3) (the argument is expansive, this co-relation to the expanding areas, relative to the crucifixion location (WHICH WAS NOT INSIDE JERUSALEM, (ACCORDING TO A NON-EDITED NEW AGE BIBLE), this expansion is called Jumping Jesus Equation)

(God has the whole earth in view, and its an "energy grid argument, not specifically tied to one geographic location", and this may not even take place) -Assumption 1 (Euthanasia largely of the removed Genetic Lines Tribes, @ some activation or increase in activity of this field) (based on the human dirth charge, humanities suicide pleasure with its dead flesh, humanty may not understand that this took place, it will just be a mass death associated to a pandemic like RABIES) (therefore what we said was, the reference to the BLACK SUN IN JEREMIAH 4, was a description of a SEAL (NULLIFIED), not a seal opening or anything)
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Assumption 1 Summary = Their peace treaty comes from these fake new age bibles, that remove the name, jesus/lord/messiah for suicide pleasure with humanity (which is a natural theory with god in a "pleasures sake" argument or suicide pleasure, its an achievement in suicide to slander god and the bible).
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Assumption 2 Summary = God is not producing a finished work (in the earth), in removing the "dead flesh accusation" with humanity in its dirth church, that prevents noah's rainbow in simple terms.............the argument is not delegated to a scapegoat, either the messiah, an angel, or the two witnesses.............this significance with God not introducing a mental and functional illness for the equal potential the gospel affords, REFERENCES PLANET JUPITER, references a non-earthly location or locations.

REVELATION 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; (The SEALS are Conditional with God, its humanities accusation, current suicide pleasure theories with God will be invalidated with RABIES, jerusalem's fall, one or both).

(its only a matter of time before they die in mass, that only good news is that, cursing god to death for suicide pleasure purposes only, that is what a portion of christianity is trained to do, contributes to the loss of life, like the 2000% jump in covid deaths, before they began to be a little more truthful, but in reality, 99.9999 percent of those genetic lines have to leave the burden of the living)
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Assumption 1 = God has not written a new bible to give equal rights to all men, but a antichrist has.
Assumption 2 = God is not producing a finished work in the earth, and the accusation is humanities dead flesh that is the obstical for God's Work.
Assumption 3 = "Faith without work is Dead", for this reason, God calls, the Earth's Resemblance to the Heavenly Church for the Faithful the "Invisible Kingdom", meaning a "sign or a vision or a messiah in this earth" is not a requirement.

(it may not be profitable with god, based on humanities suicide pleasure and lack of a will to live, to have anything more take place, other then RABIES at best (dead flesh accusation/dirth charge)..........God is prepared to let nothing more happen until humanity is dead, and, only an antichrist would leave this statement missing in action............in reality............humanity does not have a lot of years left before its death, nontheless, god's mercies may still go forth, we'll have to see how god addresses the, two witnesses/"ensign of nations according to isaiah", naturally people will die, but remember the suicide pleasure issue, even if those live are counted worthless to associate with god, people will still be saved and god's mercies will still probably go forth)

(everything will be resolved soon, its god's action only, that resolves the controversy in these issues, so very soon)

(when there is no more "invisible kingdom" they will die in mass (in jerusalem and elsewhere), sure, but not enough may die, to make this profitable, for any further action on the subject from, a son of man, more then some faithful display for the faithful, its a point of discernment that is entirely dependant on god's action (s))

("faith without work is dead"...........you can have "faith", but if god views work to that effect as not profitable, then, the sign or a vision is underplayed, humanity continues to die dumb and blind)
 
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Just read a thread about war in heaven via Rev 12:7. Though I read revelations 3x, I confess I cannot keep it in my head. I even read a book by a Rabbi who did an excellent analysis of connecting the many figurative passages.

The 1st time I read Revelations, I thought John must have been smoking something strong when he wrote it.

In the thread referenced above, several poster got into the phases of tribulation and that is not made clear to me from the text. Like Nostradamus predictions, passages are written so figuratively, they can be taken to mean nearly anything.

So, can anyone explain this book at a 4th grade level in just a short paragraph or two?
The book of Revelation is as it says: "The revelation of Jesus Christ." It is an account of his story in the heavens and upon the earth "Beginning to End." These things written of were and are all made manifest in the world--not as many would believe, but rather as history has attested, such as in the coming of Christ. Men would have believed that he would have come conquering with armies...and he did, just not as they would have imagined.

Each chapter can be explained, but some have no reference to the things of this world, for they are not of this world, but of the kingdom. Their manifestation in the world was and is not so much as a day in the life of one living here in the world, but as it is written or portrayed. The marriage for instance: Has it not been portrayed since the beginning, and also foretold of the end? What worldly event then can be specifically sighted as the fulfillment? Rhetorical. They all can. Likewise, do not look at every passage of the book of Revelation any different, but rather the same.

Specifics then, have their own explanation.
 
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The book of Revelation is as it says: "The revelation of Jesus Christ."
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Specifics then, have their own explanation.

7 SEALS ========= the lord is referred to
7 Trumpets ========= the Lord's Name is not stated
7 VIALS ========= the lord is referred to
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Jesus was not the focal point in the gospel outside of the events of jerusalem, this is not an opinion.............Jesus was also not the focal point until the written law was finished that is the new testament. (controversies, for the blind and dumb).

The 7 Trumpets are not wresting with the Lord, either for the faith, or either for wickedness, they are simply saved, in otherwords..........its not negative to have the lord's name not mentioned there. Those are the saved NO MAN KNOWS THE HOUR...........the other two statements that number 7, that deal with angels performing a work are CONDITIONAL (DEAD FLESH ACCUSATION:SEALS), or CYCLICAL (PLAGUE:VIALS), based on god's response to the controversy of suicide pleasure with the gospel's tables and its worthlessness with god for the new covenant (new universe). (it appears angels are wrestling with the Lord Jesus, and that is god's will on the subject over the SEALS or the VIALS)

(there are fake bible floating around, new age bible, where its impossible to make the stated conclusion..............however, only the fall of jerusalem the jewish people being kicked out, or a RABIES will end this controversy in the last days)

(when they saw them die in mass in the city of philadelphia, pa, when i was only a child, they knew immediately that god was not doing anything relating to the seal or the vials, based on what they saw, but when they heard the trumpets, they took a guess that god was always doing that, for the faithful, and as apart of communion with the faithful)
 
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not as many would believe, but rather as history has attested, such as in the coming of Christ. Men would have believed that he would have come conquering with armies...and he did, just not as they would have imagined.

Wow! Great analysis. It send shivers up my spine.

You don't know this but I am a student of history. Revisionist history is sacrilege.
 

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(William Miller's Great Disappointment...............when William Tyndale died, and they saw a miracle or something, they realized that God was not doing any "seals", or any "vials".................)

(if God was doing something like that then, unclean people, mostly the rich and wealthy, they have the most opportuinty and access to fornication would probably die, or have died that way (human dirth charge, the body is an instrument, not a tool or a device for pleasure or payment for sin)................secondarily minorities, and jews, would also have high numbers)

(many people want to die blind and dumb and view the gospel as a guarantee of that..............that is a very sad and unfortunate way for humanity to die, but its possible considering the language of the law, and the fact that humanity does not have as many years left as it believes it does (halley's comet))

(what we wanted to say was, there was draw originally, on William Tyndale's chest a trumpet, and they changed that to flowers, when they realized the biblical association to the book of revelations)
 
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The book of Revelation is as it says: "The revelation of Jesus Christ." It is an account of his story in the heavens and upon the earth "Beginning to End." These things written of were and are all made manifest in the world--not as many would believe, but rather as history has attested, such as in the coming of Christ. Men would have believed that he would have come conquering with armies...and he did, just not as they would have imagined.

Each chapter can be explained, but some have no reference to the things of this world, for they are not of this world, but of the kingdom. Their manifestation in the world was and is not so much as a day in the life of one living here in the world, but as it is written or portrayed. The marriage for instance: Has it not been portrayed since the beginning, and also foretold of the end? What worldly event then can be specifically sighted as the fulfillment? Rhetorical. They all can. Likewise, do not look at every passage of the book of Revelation any different, but rather the same.

Specifics then, have their own explanation.

Nah, that's what the New World Order folks want Christians to believe, as world socialists are allied with the Preterist type seminaries and churches.

Why would those on the NWO plan want to believe that Christ's Book of Revelation is all history, or mostly history? It is so as to DENY the things that are coming upon God's people at the very end which Lord Jesus and His Apostles warned His faithful Church about. It's because those on that NWO plan think to reign upon this earth over all... nations, instead of Christ.

Thus they wrongly think that Christ's Kingdom has already come on earth today, WITHOUT Jesus. That's the way they like it too, WITHOUT Jesus.
 

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Nah, that's what the New World Order folks want Christians to believe, as world socialists are allied with the Preterist type seminaries and churches.

Why would those on the NWO plan want to believe that Christ's Book of Revelation is all history, or mostly history? It is so as to DENY the things that are coming upon God's people at the very end which Lord Jesus and His Apostles warned His faithful Church about. It's because those on that NWO plan think to reign upon this earth over all... nations, instead of Christ.

Thus they wrongly think that Christ's Kingdom has already come on earth today, WITHOUT Jesus. That's the way they like it too, WITHOUT Jesus.
You seem to have a grudge issue with a party to whom I have no affiliation with.

Even so, you error in thinking that the end comes with something more extravagant than the days of Noah. This error comes from not understanding that such great events have always been: God is the same yesterday, today and forever, and there is nothing new under the sun.
 

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Revelations Simplified::The Art of Murder

(Abel had for wives, lambs, goats, oxen, cows, etc..................and Cain saw that, and said that maybe this was a tiny bit unclean, after Abel was dead, then Cain was able to have an understanding about God, it was a worthless understanding, because it was a curse/humanities dirth charge, that nullifies the earth, and plagues humanity.............but after Cain gained this understanding, and was able to identifiy with a judgment, then Cain believed that God was serving his will, "suicide pleasure", and death, was all Cain desired - END OF STORY) (THAT IS HOW A JE* OR A MINORI** UNDERSTANDS THE RELATIONSHIP OF THE LORD JESUS, they are not an animal with no spiritual identification, they just have no identification with the new covenant of god to furnish equal potential for the new universe generally speaking)

Back to Topic (this is real fact, in jerusalem jewish people are not allowed to enter into the temple mound and they say there why, because they were not blessed by the blood of a slain lamb, it may not of been a tradition established by muslims, but after seeing people drop dead there, someone secretly explained what to do to keep satan blind and dumb)

(There are People that sometimes say, that I am wrong, with history and the present, that jewish people are allowed into the temple mound to pray or etc, but they are not allowed, this is real) Back to Topic
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The Human Body, maybe, maybe only 1/3 of what god has in view as "flesh and blood", but the other "2/3" or more is attributed to "faith"................and most of the time, NOT HAVING A SIGN OR A VISION IS AN ACHIEVEMENT, for mankind facing its death!

7 Plagues/Vials = This is a Sign or a Vision of the Rotting of the Body, this is generally cyclical, God is appearing to do this today, it doesn't matter if God does a significant amount or not, God is appearing to do this today! (Remember the Story of Abel and Cain that we've said)

7 Trumpets = Remember the "faith" and the faithful, are valued more then creation or the flesh and blood lives of humanity, this is always being satisfied, in simple terms (the lord has no controversy, and with satan or any angels, and his name is not relative to these descriptions in the revelation)

7 SEALS = Humanity is accountable, to the Gospel's Tables, that is God's view of it in totality with the process of faith, or in simple terms, the dirth charge of those genetic lines, and man's suicide pleasure, of various natures............mankind is not entitled to a unified field of any kind, or a more endowed understanding of spirituality of anykind.
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if you allow jewish people to pray in the temple mound in jerusalem and to be suicidal there, only result is mass suicide, and pain that is unbearable until they die or are driven out.............we will also add this reminder:

First the Ark of the Covenant was, Purple/Blue/Gold

Second the Ark of the Covenant was, Blue/Gold

Third and Final, the Ark of the Covenant was, Scarlet and Gold

(God is doing, pandemic/plague right now, and God is doing more of something like climate change right now also...............but God will probably do nothing more until, dead flesh accusation is towned down, or perhaps................there will be a more significant reason why all those jewish people are thrown out of isreal altogether soon)

Public Safety Notice

i.imgur.com/UiogWZu.png.............the last day we talked there was an explosion in the city of philadelphia PA..............that is unfortunate, and it would be more unfortunate, if a chemical disaster took place or something similar, nonetheless as we come closer to RABIES, the son of man will be not important anymore. (the more lethal force you use against me the more quickly, the more pain there will be, until people die in mass, or hide your corpses.............my suggestion is to wait about 9 days between each euthanasia attempt against me in your suicide pleasure).
 
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NUMBERS 23:22 God brought them out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn.
NUMBERS 23:23 Surely [there is] no enchantment against Jacob, neither [is there] any divination against Israel: according to this time it shall be said of Jacob and of Israel, What hath God wrought!
NUMBERS 23:24 Behold, the people shall rise up as a great lion, and lift up himself as a young lion: he shall not lie down until he eat [of] the prey, and drink the blood of the slain.


Moses and his Soulmate (the pyramid builder covenant) (or moses and aaron, in which aaron presented moses with earrings, lipstick and goodly garments to look upon as it is recorded in the gospel)
(Then AFTER that) (the jewish people in the climax of their suicide pleasure, came to rejoice in the death of moses, but god put them away and out of his sight) (this is what you are reading, a second statement about the parable of able and cain)
(we will have to simply see very soon, what becomes available both in terms of ending lives to end the controversy of dead flesh accusation, to set things into a standard, and to reveal the prophecy and vision to the faithful in a more fundamental way..............god comes first to the son of man, and also the faithful, before anything else is done openly (dispensation))
(if it was true beyond reason that god would take 1 to 2 billion lives or allow Moses to take 1 to 2 billion lives, what purpose would it serve other then to allow them to die and fade away, and out of memory in a few short years.............rather then have them excited and guilty of more before they die)
 
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You seem to have a grudge issue with a party to whom I have no affiliation with.

Even so, you error in thinking that the end comes with something more extravagant than the days of Noah. This error comes from not understanding that such great events have always been: God is the same yesterday, today and forever, and there is nothing new under the sun.

God is Who has the grudge with those who want to deny that today, on this earth, is NOT His Kingdom, not yet without Him being here.

John 18:36
36 Jesus answered, "My kingdom is not of this world: if My kingdom were of this world, then would My servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is My kingdom not from hence."

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The only Kingdom that is already manifest involving Lord Jesus is His spiritual Kingdom through His Church here on earth. His PHYSICAL Kingdom won't happen until He returns to this earth.

Moreover, pushing the lie that Christ's Kingdom has already come here on earth today deceives the gullible into not preparing for the coming "great tribulation" Lord Jesus warned for the very end of this world. That will involve a pseudo-Christ being setup as God in Jerusalem in a rebuilt Jewish temple, just as He and Apostle Paul showed us for the end of this world. And the orthodox Jews in Jerusalem today already have all the materials to build it, even temple artifacts on display for usage in it. And you think that is being done under the Name of Jesus Christ? Absolutely not!

Thus the ideas you are pushing shows gross deception. You might want to get back to the actual written Word of God instead of playing religion with those deceivers that taught you that junk in your post.
 

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God is Who has the grudge with those who want to deny that today, on this earth, is NOT His Kingdom, not yet without Him being here.

John 18:36
36 Jesus answered, "My kingdom is not of this world: if My kingdom were of this world, then would My servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is My kingdom not from hence."

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The only Kingdom that is already manifest involving Lord Jesus is His spiritual Kingdom through His Church here on earth. His PHYSICAL Kingdom won't happen until He returns to this earth.

Moreover, pushing the lie that Christ's Kingdom has already come here on earth today deceives the gullible into not preparing for the coming "great tribulation" Lord Jesus warned for the very end of this world. That will involve a pseudo-Christ being setup as God in Jerusalem in a rebuilt Jewish temple, just as He and Apostle Paul showed us for the end of this world. And the orthodox Jews in Jerusalem today already have all the materials to build it, even temple artifacts on display for usage in it. And you think that is being done under the Name of Jesus Christ? Absolutely not!

Thus the ideas you are pushing shows gross deception. You might want to get back to the actual written Word of God instead of playing religion with those deceivers that taught you that junk in your post.
You discredit yourself. Your grudge continues. No one but God taught me anything...and I'm not pushing anything.
 

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You discredit yourself. Your grudge continues. No one but God taught me anything...and I'm not pushing anything.

Let's see... you said...
"The book of Revelation is as it says: "The revelation of Jesus Christ." It is an account of his story in the heavens and upon the earth "Beginning to End." These things written of were and are all made manifest in the world--not as many would believe, but rather as history has attested, such as in the coming of Christ. Men would have believed that he would have come conquering with armies...and he did, just not as they would have imagined."

As per written Scripture, Jesus showed that HE is... coming with His armies from Heaven at the end of this world, to do battle on the earth against the WICKED, LITERALLY (Revelation 16 and Revelation 19). And that was NOT... history!

And in John 18:36, He specifically declared that His Kingdom is NOT of this present world, otherwise His servants would fight to prevent His being delivered up to be crucified.

Lord Jesus' 1st coming was meek as a Lamb, to die upon the cross for the remission of sins of those who believe, NOT to support armies like the Christian crusades, which if you'll noticed ALL those old crusades to the Holy Land FAILED! Is He not The GOD? Then why did those Christian crusades to the Holy Land FAIL? Simple, because He showed this present world is NOT HIS KINGDOM.

But Christ's 2nd coming, which is still yet future to us, will be on the 'last day' of this world with an army from Heaven with Jesus wielding a sword that cuts both ways.

When the historical Christian nations started up with The Gospel being preached to them in the west, after Jerusalem rejected Lord Jesus, those Christian nations got on a role WRONGLY thinking that Christ's Kingdom had come on this earth! It didn't. Only His Church through The Holy Spirit was manifested, and the blessings God promised to Israel, while being hidden in those western Christian nations. The REFORMERS even thought the Catholic Pope was the Antichrist prophesied to come, showing they thought the end of the world and Christ's return would then happen in their day! It didn't, just like the holy crusades to Jerusalem didn't work either!

Those ideas of men only show they don't like to follow the times and the seasons that God has put in His Holy Writ. So they think to FORCE the coming of Christ's Kingdom. There are even crazy religious factions today that think to help the radicals today in hopes it will bring Christ's coming sooner. Stupid stuff.

God's Promises in final to His Church involving His Kingdom is about the final gathering of the stick of Joseph and the stick of Judah back to the Holy Lands to the inheritances God originally gave their fathers, with David as their king (Ezekiel 37). That is still YET TO BE FULFILLED TODAY.


You further said:

"Each chapter can be explained, but some have no reference to the things of this world, for they are not of this world, but of the kingdom. Their manifestation in the world was and is not so much as a day in the life of one living here in the world, but as it is written or portrayed. The marriage for instance: Has it not been portrayed since the beginning, and also foretold of the end? What worldly event then can be specifically sighted as the fulfillment? Rhetorical. They all can. Likewise, do not look at every passage of the book of Revelation any different, but rather the same."

If you're referring to the marriage supper prophesied WITH Christ Jesus, when He returns, the supper we hold in Church today is ONLY symbolic of the REAL marriage supper WITH JESUS LITERALLY, when He returns! You sound like you like to take the 'literal' prophecies written of in God's Word and TOY with them, turning them into man's philosophy! That will not do.

So no, the marriage supper of Matthew 22 is going to be a literal event when Jesus returns literally back to this earth in our near future. That is what the Revelation 19:1-9 Scripture is specifically about once the Babylon Harlot is destroyed on the day of His return.

And don't look at every passage in Revelation any differently, but rather the same? What kind of garbage advice is that? Not every event written of in Christ's Revelation reveals the same idea. Any child in the 2nd grade that reads it can know that!
 
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ScottA

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As per written Scripture, Jesus showed that HE is... coming with His armies from Heaven at the end of this world, to do battle on the earth against the WICKED, LITERALLY (Revelation 16 and Revelation 19). And that was NOT... history!

And in John 18:36, He specifically declared that His Kingdom is NOT of this present world, otherwise His servants would fight to prevent His being delivered up to be crucified.

Lord Jesus' 1st coming was meek as a Lamb, to die upon the cross for the remission of sins of those who believe, NOT to support armies like the Christian crusades, which if you'll noticed ALL those old crusades to the Holy Land FAILED! Is He not The GOD? Then why did those Christian crusades to the Holy Land FAIL? Simple, because He showed this present world is NOT HIS KINGDOM.

But Christ's 2nd coming, which is still yet future to us, will be on the 'last day' of this world with an army from Heaven with Jesus wielding a sword that cuts both ways.

When the historical Christian nations started up with The Gospel being preached to them in the west, after Jerusalem rejected Lord Jesus, those Christian nations got on a role WRONGLY thinking that Christ's Kingdom had come on this earth! It didn't. Only His Church through The Holy Spirit was manifested, and the blessings God promised to Israel, while being hidden in those western Christian nations. The REFORMERS even thought the Catholic Pope was the Antichrist prophesied to come, showing they thought the end of the world and Christ's return would then happen in their day! It didn't, just like the holy crusades to Jerusalem didn't work either!

Those ideas of men only show they don't like to follow the times and the seasons that God has put in His Holy Writ. So they think to FORCE the coming of Christ's Kingdom. There are even crazy religious factions today that think to help the radicals today in hopes it will bring Christ's coming sooner. Stupid stuff.

God's Promises in final to His Church involving His Kingdom is about the final gathering of the stick of Joseph and the stick of Judah back to the Holy Lands to the inheritances God originally gave their fathers, with David as their king (Ezekiel 37). That is still YET TO BE FULFILLED TODAY.


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If you're referring to the marriage supper prophesied WITH Christ Jesus, when He returns, the supper we hold in Church today is ONLY symbolic of the REAL marriage supper WITH JESUS LITERALLY, when He returns! You sound like you like to take the 'literal' prophecies written of in God's Word and TOY with them, turning them into man's philosophy! That will not do.

So no, the marriage supper of Matthew 22 is going to be a literal event when Jesus returns literally back to this earth in our near future. That is what the Revelation 19:1-9 Scripture is specifically about once the Babylon Harlot is destroyed on the day of His return.

And don't look at every passage in Revelation any differently, but rather the same? What kind of garbage advice is that? Not every event written of in Christ's Revelation reveals the same idea. Any child in the 2nd grade that reads it can know that!
Just as those did in the history I referred to, you also have a great misunderstanding of how the things of prophecy are fulfilled. But I don't have time to go into it at the moment, so I'll come back later to address the points you have made.
 

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The only Kingdom that is already manifest involving Lord Jesus is His spiritual Kingdom through His Church here on earth. His PHYSICAL Kingdom won't happen until He returns to this earth.

Moreover, pushing the lie that Christ's Kingdom has already come here on earth today deceives the gullible into not preparing for the coming "great tribulation" Lord Jesus warned for the very end of this world. That will involve a pseudo-Christ being setup as God in Jerusalem in a rebuilt Jewish temple, just as He and Apostle Paul showed us for the end of this world. And the orthodox Jews in Jerusalem today already have all the materials to build it, even temple artifacts on display for usage in it. And you think that is being done under the Name of Jesus Christ? Absolutely not!

Thus the ideas you are pushing shows gross deception. You might want to get back to the actual written Word of God instead of playing religion with those deceivers that taught you that junk in your post.
No such thing found in scripture, such as a physical kingdom being set up on this earth at the return of Jesus Christ as you suggest

Jesus Christ returns in fire and final judgement, dissolving this earth by "Fire" (The End)