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NayborBear

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Now we can start dividing doctor's and patients.
Divided we fall.
Please don't ask what's next..
they probably already have that covered.

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Why does it seem I am the only, or one of the only people that believe that God not only can cure disease without Dr's., but can also prevent you from ever contracting disease.
And why does this belief sound so crazy?
 

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Why does it seem I am the only, or one of the only people that believe that God not only can cure disease without Dr's., but can also prevent you from ever contracting disease.
And why does this belief sound so crazy?
Because you can't make money off that ideology.
So it has to be denied at all costs.
 

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Why does it seem I am the only, or one of the only people that believe that God not only can cure disease without Dr's., but can also prevent you from ever contracting disease.
And why does this belief sound so crazy?
I know many devoted Christians who died from their cancers. If death is a cure.

Maybe one way to look at doctor's place and purpose in this world is God knew we'd be sick. He created doctors to better our lives so we can praise him and thank God for inspiring people to become healers.
 
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The American left is a fascist movement.
True. And the Democratic party of America has taken it one step further. It is now a Communist/Marxist/Fascist/Anarchist/Racist party using every possible trick in the book to destroy America from within, and Israel at the same time. Which should tells us that in reality demons are in control. Some states are waking up and banning Critical Race Theory. But that is not enough.
 

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True. And the Democratic party of America has taken it one step further. It is now a Communist/Marxist/Fascist/Anarchist/Racist party using every possible trick in the book to destroy America from within, and Israel at the same time. Which should tells us that in reality demons are in control. Some states are waking up and banning Critical Race Theory. But that is not enough.

There must be a reason God is allowing this:

Jeremiah 25:32
Thus saith the Lord of hosts, Behold, evil shall go forth from nation to nation, and a great whirlwind shall be raised up from the coasts of the earth.

To do this:
Habakkuk 1:6
For, lo, I raise up the Chaldeans, that bitter and hasty nation, which shall march through the breadth of the land, to possess the dwellingplaces that are not their's.

Kinda weird that no matter how much things change?
People tend to remain the same!

Ain't that right Jeshurun?

Deuteronomy 32:15
But Jeshurun waxed fat, and kicked: thou art waxen fat, thou art grown thick, thou art covered with fatness; then he forsook God which made him, and lightly esteemed the Rock of his salvation.

 
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Why does it seem I am the only, or one of the only people that believe that God not only can cure disease without Dr's., but can also prevent you from ever contracting disease.
And why does this belief sound so crazy?

its not but the Lord provides the world for you to receive many things. there's the old adage of a man stuck in the waters of the ocean and prays for God's help and a rescue team shows up and he refuses because its not God. are you to refuse food at hand because it didn't appear miraculously? granted one shouldn't be in fear of like the godless do. but one has to respect what God has already made.
 

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its not but the Lord provides the world for you to receive many things. there's the old adage of a man stuck in the waters of the ocean and prays for God's help and a rescue team shows up and he refuses because its not God. are you to refuse food at hand because it didn't appear miraculously? granted one shouldn't be in fear of like the godless do. but one has to respect what God has already made.

I suppose one could look at the medical profession as "something" God created.
Or?
God could have allowed these "sorcerers" (pharmacia) to be as a "testing" of one's faith.
1 Corinthians 10:22
Or do we provoke the Lord to jealousy? Are we stronger than he?


Don't get me wrong about this. I do believe they are of some use.
Just not as much use as the "profession" would have people think they are.
 

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I suppose one could look at the medical profession as "something" God created.
Or?
God could have allowed these "sorcerers" (pharmacia) to be as a "testing" of one's faith.
1 Corinthians 10:22
Or do we provoke the Lord to jealousy? Are we stronger than he?


Don't get me wrong about this. I do believe they are of some use.
Just not as much use as the "profession" would have people think they are.

well science is the atheist's religion, though it seems most would deny that, but they swear by it like its gospel truth. so yea, and they're selling their wears also. And in a free economy its all about mo money, and the industry will stand together to sustain or enlarge their market base.

but those sort of things have been since more than one man competed for the favors of those he could get something from.
 

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well science is the atheist's religion, though it seems most would deny that, but they swear by it like its gospel truth. so yea, and they're selling their wears also. And in a free economy its all about mo money, and the industry will stand together to sustain or enlarge their market base.

but those sort of things have been since more than one man competed for the favors of those he could get something from.

....and every believer should know what the love of money is right?
Should give one cause to ponder.
Fighting against a stacked deck from the cradle.
Considering the "one who deceived the whole world."
 

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There must be a reason God is allowing this:

There is great evil in the U.S. I think it's possible that God allowed the evil-doers in America to succeed in order to "give them over" to their wicked desires so that they can suffer the fruits of their evil.
 

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There is great evil in the U.S. I think it's possible that God allowed the evil-doers in America to succeed in order to "give them over" to their wicked desires so that they can suffer the fruits of their evil.
You have read the OT, I take it. One verse in particular comes to mind . . .

Jdg 21:25 In those days there was no king in Israel: every man did that which was right in his own eyes.
 

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You have read the OT, I take it. One verse in particular comes to mind . . .

Jdg 21:25 In those days there was no king in Israel: every man did that which was right in his own eyes.

Kind of goes hand in hand with this. While everyone "sits on their hands" waiting to be "raptured!" :rolleyes:
Amos 5:2
The virgin of Israel is fallen; she shall no more rise: she is forsaken upon her land; there is none to raise her up.
 

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....and every believer should know what the love of money is right?
Should give one cause to ponder.
Fighting against a stacked deck from the cradle.
Considering the "one who deceived the whole world."

every non-believer knows what the love of money is also, comes with the territory.

you may see it as a stacked deck, but against what?

only that which is of the Light, walks in the Light, the rest remain where they are. in this case there is no gray area. note the first day, God separated the light from the darkness, but there had to be that which is light, that has no darkness even though it wasn't maybe physically separated yet.

hence that sanctification via the Light that separates, but yet you are amongst those in darkness until such time that we await. basically we out survive the kingdom of death via the Kingdom of Life or of God or of Heaven within us.
 

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you may see it as a stacked deck, but against what?

Galatians 5:17
For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

From the cradle!
 

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Galatians 5:17
For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

From the cradle!
the one i like on that is:

Gen_8:21 And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.


its really not an issue when you give it some thought, only God is going to get you out. and if He doesn't chose some one He leaves them to their own judgements of good and evil of which they are satisfied to do. and you know that's true especially if you've brought the message to those who would contend it.

also as we can see what God's expectations are of human nature, and our expectations should be the same. knowing its only God's nature that makes one in the image and likeness of God.

i like that avatar though
 

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I know many devoted Christians who died from their cancers. If death is a cure.

Maybe one way to look at doctor's place and purpose in this world is God knew we'd be sick. He created doctors to better our lives so we can praise him and thank God for inspiring people to become healers.

So you are already accepted the fact that the Lord does not heal?
Just asking.
 

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There is great evil in the U.S. I think it's possible that God allowed the evil-doers in America to succeed in order to "give them over" to their wicked desires so that they can suffer the fruits of their evil.

Would you say the same in regards to the Nazi regime killing 1000's of Jews and others?