Clerical Celibacy

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amigo de christo

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So has the rate of abuses in the Catholic Church. It's dropped to 0%. That's "tanked" but don't count on the media to tell the facts. Your "church", if you call it that, can't match that record. So stop bellyaching about an outdated problem that you can't fix in your own communities.
It's easy to scream about DECEIVED LEADERS when you have no leaders, no teachers, no pastors, sitting in judgement of everybody that disagrees with your paranoid fundamentalism. You have PRIDE all over your posts.
If even all the churches dropped it to zero , what will it profit them if they heed and follow STILL the false ones .
They need to CLEAN THE WHOLE HOUSE if ya ask me .
Boot out the catholic and methodist , baptist , and other strange doctrines and rather
STAND WITH A BIBLE IN ONE HAND and cry unto the peoples , WE STARTING OVER IN JUST THIS BOOK .
ONLY they AINT GONNA DO THAT . they will only continue to heed the strange doctrine of a strange love
that has come from within to DECIEVE THEM ALL TO MERGE as ONE
and not just within christendom but with all religoins . THE DELUSION has COME and it has come
in under the guise that it is love and it is of GOD . ONLY , IT AINT . IT OF THE DEVIL HIMSELF and we had better
all WATCH OUT cause many of his co workers are wearing WOOL dude . WEARING WOOL and decieving the entire
realm of christendom and even the very world itself . The devil can wear more than prada
and so can his co workers , they can WEAR WOOL .
 
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Clerical Celibacy

Man-established bad idea.

Glory to God,
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Very correct . you see it was never an established idea with even paul .
HE never said YE HAD TO BE CELEBATE . though the celibate man do have an advantage
without distraction . BUT IT WAS NOT ever once to be made a mandate .
You see either one is called to be celibate or NOT .
But we cannot make a rule which says Bishops and deacons must BE CELIBATE
cause many who desired to be one , will come in beliving he had to be
and yet IN TIME HE GONNA SLIP . If a man has not POWER over his body to be celibate
THEN he wont be . this is why many sneak off to houses and in the dark have had them some sex .
THEY could not contain . IF , IF one cannot contain then LET THEM MARRY . but that is not what
the ESTABLISHMENT of MAN , not GOD , but man , did teach .
And this is by far not the greatest problem within said place or places .
RAINBOW DIVERSE INCLUSIVE LOVE has taken them all for a ride to perditon , lest they repent and come OUT OF IT .
 
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Man-established bad idea.

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Jesus once there is no greater love than that a man give himself for his friends ......
I have another saying which also applies to today .
There is no darker a love than the sensual diverse love that OMITS THE DIRE NEED TO BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST
and turns him also into the ministir of sin . CAUSE THAT AINT LOVE , ITS DARKNESS .
 
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the greatest deception , the upmost of the falling away has come ............
WHEN you can convince the very realm of christendom and those within it
to REMOVE THE FOUNDATION , THE GOSPEL , THE DIRE NEED TO BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST
and convince them that not only is there NO need for these false religoins to REPENT and TO BELEIVE ON CHRIST
but now that even those , LIKE ME who KEEP SAYING YE MUST BELEIVE , are in the way and haters of love and of GOD .
ITS GOT REAL BAD WITHIN CHRISTENDOM FOLKS . REAL BAD . this christendom
would shove JESUS and the apostels RIGHT OUT of its own doors
and SCREAM at them YOU HATERS , NONE OF YOU KNOW CHRIST GOD OR LOVE .
AND THAT IS A FACT FOLKS . A FACT . ANOTHER JESUS HAS LONG BEEN PREACHED UNTO CHRISTENDOM
AND IT HAS TAKEN BY STORM MANY PEOPLES NOW
 
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It also means that polygamy is not to be practiced by bishops -- even in any locales where Timothy might visit in which polygamy is common.
CORRECT . When paul was addressing timothy he was not meaning they had to be married in order to be a deacon
but rather that if a man has more than one wife , HE CANNOT BE ONE . you are right my friend .
 
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never said they are more or less guilty . DID I .
exactly my friend . the realm of christendom ,however , has tanked .
And right i am about this very fact .
And it aint just about sexual misconducts either . MEN HAVE DECIEVED us all my friend .
THEY have come within the CAMP to DECIEVE . the problem is
most folks trust in their beloved CAMP WAY TOO MUCH , in their men , their way as being THE WAY
their men as being the MEN of GOD . WHEN IN TRUTH , you all have been decieved . And what i say to the catholic
KNOW WELL i say to the protestant . YOU ALL ARE BEING DECIEVED . an enemy has come from within
and know this , know this , learn it and learn it well ..............THE DEVIL CAN WEAR MORE THAN PRADA my friend
HE and his minstirs can WEAR WOOL . the sooner folks realize this and get in THE BIBLE for themselves
to learn the truth . THE FAR BETTER OFF they are gonna have been and will be .
And before you buy the lie that both the RCC and PROSTENTANT realm has sold
the lie that says THE BIBLE and or learning it for ourselves is the problem ,
KNOW THIS , it was not the BIBLE or learning it for ourselves that ever was the problem .
IT WAS LEARNING it through the realm of DECIEVED LEADERS that was and is and shall be THE PROBLEM .
You all been decieved and big time too . I say that not to condemn , not to hate , BUT OF LOVE . Get in the bible
FOR YOU and i say that to the protestant TOO . BIBLE TIME DUDES .
Your lack of faith in Christ is at the heart of your confusion.

Jesus guaranteed that His Church would NOT succumb to darkness.
YOU say that Christendom had “tanked”, rendering Him a LIAR..

YOU claim that we all “follow men” – yet every one of your Protestant doctrines was invented by MEN during and after the 15th century.

YOU state that it was NOY individual interpretation of the Bible that is the problem – yet this is this very thing that has been the BIGGEST problem. Too many uneducated people like YOU interpreting for themselves, thereby creating multitude of separate sects who ALL teach different doctrines because they claim THEY are correct.

Our God id NOT the God of confusion, but the God of
ORFER . . .
 
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Your lack of faith in Christ is at the heart of your confusion.

Jesus guaranteed that His Church would NOT succumb to darkness.
YOU say that Christendom had “tanked”, rendering Him a LIAR..

YOU claim that we all “follow men” – yet every one of your Protestant doctrines was invented by MEN during and after the 15th century.

YOU state that it was NOY individual interpretation of the Bible that is the problem – yet this is this very thing that has been the BIGGEST problem. Too many uneducated people like YOU interpreting for themselves, thereby creating multitude of separate sects who ALL teach different doctrines because they claim THEY are correct.

Our God id NOT the God of confusion, but the God of
ORFER . . .
HIS CHURCH never has tanked
the problem is just like not all of Israel WAS OF OR IS OF ISRAEL
NIETHER IS ALL OF CHRISTENDOM OF JESUS CHRIST ETIHER DUDE .
you all been sitting under dangerous deceptive men for a long long time .
THE CHURCH ITSELF has never been overcome . THE CHURCH is THE PEOPLE O GOD and OF THE LAMB
and they have often been abused by MANY a denomination as well .
MOST of CHRISTENDOM , NO LONGER IS OF CHRISTENDOM and that is a fact pard .
ONE you better hurry and learn too . SO PICK UP THE BIBLE and start learing about THE CHURCH for YOU .
 
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Rather odd the RCC claimeth peter was its first pope
and yet ITS POPES have all walked CONTRARY TO PETER and the other apostels themselves .
We bess bible up friends and learn JESUS CHRIST , learn what PETER WROTE or paul , james or jude or john
for ourselves . read the beautiful ol scrips for oneself . cause many deceivers have abounded through all
times to lead captive many men to be their own servants . Men loving to have the pre emience
and loving to make desciples of men after their own names and own places . WE GOT PROBLEMS
and now in the last hour a mighty and strong delusion has come
to gather all within every denomination and within even every false religoin , to be as one .
ONLY IT AINT UNDER GOD OR CHRIST . its A DELUSION meant to UNIFY THE DECIEVED SOULS TO NOW UNITE AS ONE .
TO be no longer divided but UNITED UNDER THE DRAGON as ONE PEOPLES with one mind and one heart
and believe you me they gonna want blood for the true lambs who did not and would not conform .
 
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OTher than paul himself , the twelve apostels were all UNEDCUATED MEN pard .
Now paul had been well trained in doctrine but was still lost TILL the day JESUS MET HIM on the road .
AND YET those uneducated fishermen , who never once sat under a SCHOLAR , BUT HAD SAT UNDER JESUS CHRIST
sure did seem to KNOW THINGS .
EVERYONE GET IN YOUR BIBLES . THE RCC just like many within the protestant realm are trying to make it seem
like we cannot learn it for ourselves .
THE PROBLEM IS NOT THE BIBLE . THE PROBLEM IS NOT READING THE BIBLE .
the problem is sitting under MEN WHO TWIST IT .
the problem is in the HEART OF THE MAN . many read it or at least read some of it
and did so too LOOK WISE , TO HAVE A FOLLOWING to have the praise and appluad of men .
AGAIN BAD HEART .
But unto those who truly do believe in JESUS THE CHRIST and simply desire to learn
so as they can walk better and serve GOD better , GET IN IT AND STAY DUG IN IT AND LEARN IT WELL .
 
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HIS CHURCH never has tanked
the problem is just like not all of Israel WAS OF OR IS OF ISRAEL
NIETHER IS ALL OF CHRISTENDOM OF JESUS CHRIST ETIHER DUDE .
you all been sitting under dangerous deceptive men for a long long time .
THE CHURCH ITSELF has never been overcome . THE CHURCH is THE PEOPLE O GOD and OF THE LAMB
and they have often been abused by MANY a denomination as well .
MOST of CHRISTENDOM , NO LONGER IS OF CHRISTENDOM and that is a fact pard .
ONE you better hurry and learn too . SO PICK UP THE BIBLE and start learing about THE CHURCH for YOU .
YOUR version of “Church” is only as old as the Protestant Revolt in the 16th century.
THE Church goes all the way back to the Apostles.

The ONLY Church that was around in the 1st century was the Catholic Church.
From 1st century Bishop and student of the Apostle John, Ignatius of Antioch:

Ignatius of Antioch

Follow your bishop, every one of you, as obediently as Jesus Christ followed the Father. Obey your clergy too as you would the apostles; give your deacons the same reverence that you would to a command of God. Make sure that no step affecting the Church is ever taken by anyone without the bishop’s sanction. The sole Eucharist you should consider valid is one that is celebrated by the bishop himself, or by some person authorized by him. Where the bishop is to be seen, there let all his people be; just as,
wherever Jesus Christ is present, there is the Catholic Church (Letter to the Smyrneans 8:2 [A.D. 107]).

“Follow your Bishop”
“Obey your clergy”
“The sole Eucharist”
“… the Catholic Church”


Gee – WHAT Church does that sound like, Einstein?
Certainly NOT anything that came from your Protestant Revolt . . .
 

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OTher than paul himself , the twelve apostels were all UNEDCUATED MEN pard .
Now paul had been well trained in doctrine but was still lost TILL the day JESUS MET HIM on the road .
AND YET those uneducated fishermen , who never once sat under a SCHOLAR , BUT HAD SAT UNDER JESUS CHRIST
sure did seem to KNOW THINGS .
EVERYONE GET IN YOUR BIBLES . THE RCC just like many within the protestant realm are trying to make it seem
like we cannot learn it for ourselves .
THE PROBLEM IS NOT THE BIBLE . THE PROBLEM IS NOT READING THE BIBLE .
the problem is sitting under MEN WHO TWIST IT .

the problem is in the HEART OF THE MAN . many read it or at least read some of it
and did so too LOOK WISE , TO HAVE A FOLLOWING to have the praise and appluad of men .
AGAIN BAD HEART .
But unto those who truly do believe in JESUS THE CHRIST and simply desire to learn
so as they can walk better and serve GOD better , GET IN IT AND STAY DUG IN IT AND LEARN IT WELL .
I couldn't agree with you more.

Sola Scriptura, Sola Fide, Eternal Security - ALL unbiblical doctrines that are man-made Protestant inventions that people like YOU adhere to.