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  1. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    Jesus remains in the clouds in Revelation 14. He is coming for a harvest. All go to heaven after the harvest for the marriage supper of the Lamb. In Revelation 14 You conclude that the angel reaps the land of Israel. The Word says that the earth is reaped. You conclude that Jesus reaps the city...
  2. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    You seem very unfamiliar with the Word of God. Screams to pinpoint the pretribulation rapture. Here it is. Matthew 24 44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
  3. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    These have already been answered. Please refer to previous posts in previous threads for the answers. You continue to deny you have been answered. Deny, Deny, Deny. All you got. Everyone knows it.
  4. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    For once I totally agree with you. This is a total and complete load of gibberish...................For those without eyes to see and ears to hear.
  5. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    The 144,000 are redeemed from the earth......they are raptured from the earth are before the throne in heaven. They are first fruits of the harvest of the twelve tribes across the earth. You skipped comment on this verse. Revelation 14 13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write...
  6. The Light

    The "watch rapture view"

    I don't agree with this all. The wrath of God is one year. The Day of the Lord is when we come with the armies of heaven. The Lord will speak the Word and there will be sudden destruction. There is a 7 year period that begins when a covenant with many is confirmed. However, there is only 3.5...
  7. The Light

    The "watch rapture view"

    They are the one-year wrath of God.
  8. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    I use it. Thanks though, it's a good tool.
  9. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    I always thought the Luke 21 in these verses was talking about 70AD. But what was the testimony in 70AD? Luke 21 12 But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my...
  10. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    When "A" rapture takes place. The rapture of todays Church. I agree with that.
  11. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    Do a search on the "fulness of the Gentiles". You should find something. Negatory. Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. The court of the Temple mount is still under control of the Gentiles. Sure we should. Until the Dome of the Rock is...
  12. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    I posted the scripture that shows that Jerusalem will be trodden down until the times of the Gentiles is complete. I posted the scripture that shows that the courtyard of the Temple is given to the Gentiles and will be tread on 42 months. The fullness of the Gentiles is completed at the...
  13. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    The fullness of the Gentiles and times of the Gentiles are not the same thing. The fullness of the Gentiles will be complete at the pretribulation rapture. The pretribulation rapture obviously happens before the great tribulation. The times of Gentiles is another matter. Jerusalem shall be...
  14. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    Yes, He does and the righteous are reaped Yes, and the unrighteous are reaped. Douggg, I see nothing in scripture that says that there are two different locations. The Bible says the EARTH is reaped by both Jesus and the angel with the sickle. The earth reaped of the righteous and the...
  15. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    He returns at the 6th seal. He remains in the clouds and sends His angels to gather the elect. He remains in the clouds. All return to heaven for the marriage supper. We meet Him in the air and return to heaven during the wrath of God. He's got to come and get us. No. I said it wrong...
  16. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    The gathering takes place at the 6th seal. We are in heaven during the one year wrath of God at the marriage supper. That's correct. Now notice that the specific event occurs at the end of the trumpets and vials.
  17. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    Can you understand harvest?
  18. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    Since dispensationalists aren't doing the actual rapture that has no effect. Do you think God needs DNA to figure out who is who? How come every conversation with you turns into the tale of the DNA?
  19. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    Please Doug. Jesus swings the sickle for the righteous and the angels gather them. They are going to heaven for marriage supper. The second angel swings the sickle for the unrighteous. The unrighteous are cast into the wrath of God. This event occurs at the 6th seal.
  20. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    LOL. I almost made mention of DNA for laughs.