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    Was the Cross Always Understood?

    Blood = Life. Blood is the symbol, Life is the reality. Its immense value is derived from the fact that in Jesus' incarnation as a man (and that a man after 4000yrs of degeneration (weakened) of the race) it was a real possibility that Jesus could have succumbed to temptation and failed. (is it...
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    Was the Cross Always Understood?

    I'm surprised you find my post difficult to track. Not even the disciples understood the crucifixion till after the resurrection and even then Jesus helped them understand the implications (joining the dots) by pressing the flesh with them for another forty days. The OT prophets wrote of things...
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    Was the Cross Always Understood?

    Discernment required. Without it we can/ must ask, did Jesus portray a blood thirsty God who trades blood for forgiveness and to push it further, is God really a trader? ...and if so what do we understand 'grace' to mean....unless of course we settle for it meaning the formality of uttering some...
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    Was the Cross Always Understood?

    Here's a statement by EG White, 'The cross will be the science and the song of the redeemed throughout the ceaseless ages of eternity' If we take this at face value I guess what we understand about the cross today is just the tip of an unfathomably big iceberg.
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    Was the Cross Always Understood?

    You love categorising don't you BBJ. It enables you to short circuit meaning and relieves you of the burden of thinking.....particularly when it comes to deciphering eternal mysteries. Now let me see you reply to a section of my post here as is your habit (violating its context) because it...
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    Was the Cross Always Understood?

    Interpreting the NT by the OT has it back to front. We are to interpret the OT by the NT. It was man who killed the lamb in the OT, not God. The lamb gave his life (blood) Yes, blood is a symbol for life for with out blood in us or animals we have no life. It does not mean that God requires...
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    The Glorious Return of Jesus Christ

    Matthew 16....Jesus' Kingdom is a reality of selflessness as opposed to mans reality of selfishness. It was his disciples (not just the 12, many of whom deserted him later) subsequently he says 'some standing here'. The 12 saw the nature of God's kingdom at the crucifixion and resurrection...
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    What if I don’t want eternal life?

    In Matthew 25 Jesus tells the parable of the ten virgins, five foolish and five wise. The foolish ones assumed they could get in good with the bridegroom (Jesus) because as they said, they had done 'the right things'. They ultimately went into oblivion (outer darkness) They rejected the Good...
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    Was the Cross Always Understood?

    Forgiveness is a gift (grace) does not require payment . It comes from the heart of the giver. 1 Corinthians 13:5 tells us that love holds no record of wrongs. Romans 3:24 tells us we are justified freely by his Grace. Men interpret 'justice' as a kind of revenge or pay back. God's justice is...
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    Pray for President Trump's protection as Ayatollah issues Fatwa against him

    It is not unbelievers who go out to meet the Lord (bridegroom) therefore we must deduct that 'virgin' means believer. Do you have another option? I would interpret the the parable as those who deem themselves or qualify themselves as believers but are disqualified by Jesus telling them, 'I...
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    Pray for President Trump's protection as Ayatollah issues Fatwa against him

    All were virgins ie, believers. The foolish ones were unenlightened, they presumed they would get in on their 'religious' merits; they rejected the gift in favour of their self focused endeavours.
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    Was the Cross Always Understood?

    Yes I do believe Deb. How one sees/ understands the work of Jesus, both in his ministry and on the cross shifts the affections to either a place of self focus and blame or one of admiration and gratitude. It sees others as valuable. A counterfeit gospel or a misapprehension always results in a...
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    Where do people get the spiritual authority?

    Yes, 'verily' is old English, it's all but faded from modern expressions. We might say, I tell you the truth.
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    Was the Cross Always Understood?

    You speak as with a carnal mind BBJ. God doesn't set traps. He is wayyyyyyyyy above that thinking. The only thing that motivates God is love towards his creation....nothing else. Have you ever wondered why God hasn't made short work of Satan wayyyyy before now? Have you ever wondered why he...
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    Was the Cross Always Understood?

    Was the Cross Always Understood? It is still not understood today. Large slabs of the 'Christian' world see the cross as appeasing an angry God. They have identified God with the Pagan gods. The crucifixion was the result of angry men and demons hating a loving God. If God were angry he...